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Chrono, I said Nintendo saved GAMING. Not home entertainment...

Legend take that somewhere else. I know the relative cost and I understand gaming was expensive back then, but it was also a lot cheaper last generation (excluding XBOX Live). Prices are going in the wrong direction and we both know it.

Lastly, there are a bunch of reasons why thee other two companies are behind. It is more than just a simple economic equation as worth is never accounted for in simple economics. It just so happens that pricing has a major impact. That, and the games being more fun to play...



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Wow, I have never seen anything so pathetic.

"ZOMG DIE ELITIST SCUM!!!"

"ZOMG GAMING IS RUINED!!!"

The truth is that the Xbox 360 is moving more software worldwide than any other console. Even with the American and Japanese charts combined, the DS still can't compare.

"WAH, GAMES WERE GETTING TOO COMPLEX, MY 85 YEAR OLD GRANDMA COULDN'T GET INTO GAMING!!!"

Who cares about the fact that your mother or grandma or pet iguana can finally get into gaming?! You think the industry cares? You think your mom sits around playing videogames for hours a week and makes sure to always visit Gamestop when she goes to the mall?!

Ask yourself that.

The Wii was an unbelievable hype machine, and the games were the things driving it. But the software drought forced the "hardcore" to buy games they would otherwise never buy, like Mario Party 8 and Carnival Games.

Both sides need to stop with this phony attitude. It sounds stupid.



 

 

Legend11 said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:
Nintendo saved gaming. It is that simple. 400, 500, and 600 dollar consoles were the wave of the future? As a hardcore gamer of twenty years, I can tell you that the line has to be drawn somewhere.

You think gaming is too expensive now? Go back and look at the prices that games retailed at during the SNES and Genesis days and price index them with the cost of games now.


That's due to Moore's law, than the systems being overpriced. 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

MontanaHatchet said:

Who cares about the fact that your mother or grandma or pet iguana can finally get into gaming?! You think the industry cares? You think your mom sits around playing videogames for hours a week and makes sure to always visit Gamestop when she goes to the mall?!

Ask yourself that.

It wasn't long ago that most moms and grandmas didn't even care about video games.

Today some do.

Nothing changes overnight but the Wii is slowly changing things. 

Those moms and grandamas may not be visiting gamestop today, but tomorrow... who can say.

Words Of Wisdom said:
MontanaHatchet said:

Who cares about the fact that your mother or grandma or pet iguana can finally get into gaming?! You think the industry cares? You think your mom sits around playing videogames for hours a week and makes sure to always visit Gamestop when she goes to the mall?!

Ask yourself that.

It wasn't long ago that most moms and grandmas didn't even care about video games.

Today some do.

Nothing changes overnight but the Wii is slowly changing things.

Those moms and grandamas may not be visiting gamestop today, but tomorrow... who can say.
By then the Wii's lifespan will be over.

 



 

 

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MontanaHatchet said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
MontanaHatchet said:

Who cares about the fact that your mother or grandma or pet iguana can finally get into gaming?! You think the industry cares? You think your mom sits around playing videogames for hours a week and makes sure to always visit Gamestop when she goes to the mall?!

Ask yourself that.

It wasn't long ago that most moms and grandmas didn't even care about video games.

Today some do.

Nothing changes overnight but the Wii is slowly changing things.

Those moms and grandamas may not be visiting gamestop today, but tomorrow... who can say.
By then the Wii's lifespan will be over.

 


Because the strategy proving fruitful on the DS magically won't work on the Wii. 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
MontanaHatchet said:

Who cares about the fact that your mother or grandma or pet iguana can finally get into gaming?! You think the industry cares? You think your mom sits around playing videogames for hours a week and makes sure to always visit Gamestop when she goes to the mall?!

Ask yourself that.

It wasn't long ago that most moms and grandmas didn't even care about video games.

Today some do.

Nothing changes overnight but the Wii is slowly changing things.

Those moms and grandamas may not be visiting gamestop today, but tomorrow... who can say.
By then the Wii's lifespan will be over.

 


Because the strategy proving fruitful on the DS magically won't work on the Wii.


 Pretty much.



 

 

MontanaHatchet said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
MontanaHatchet said:

Who cares about the fact that your mother or grandma or pet iguana can finally get into gaming?! You think the industry cares? You think your mom sits around playing videogames for hours a week and makes sure to always visit Gamestop when she goes to the mall?!

Ask yourself that.

It wasn't long ago that most moms and grandmas didn't even care about video games.

Today some do.

Nothing changes overnight but the Wii is slowly changing things.

Those moms and grandamas may not be visiting gamestop today, but tomorrow... who can say.
By then the Wii's lifespan will be over.

 


If the Wii can substantially change the demographic that is "the gamer" then that will be its gift to the industry.  



Legend11 said:
mesoteto said:
^--that is an elites attitude--i am better then the common man so why should he get what i have

Well imagine this because it's the way I see things

Imagine that you are a sport figherman and you along with your friends have camps on a lake where you go to fish and relax. One day you notice construction going on and you find out they're building a theme park by the lake to attract more people to it. They also decide that fishing in the lake the old-fashioned way is too hard so they stock the lake with thousands of fish so anyone who even puts a fishing pole in the lake can catch a fish. Now would you think it would be fair if someone called you elitist if you complained about what was happening? Would you call those people who came to that lake to visit the theme park and fished for 10 minutes and caught a fish a sport fisherman?

It's not the Wii's controls that I or many of the people are complaining about it's the games. When someone aged 3 or 4 on a video on You Tube can be given a Wii remote and nunchuk, swing their hands wildly and randomly, and knockout fighters then there's a problem. It's not a testament to how great the Wii's controls are it's about how dumbed down these casual games are. I imagine some people think it's great if soccer mom Susan who has never picked up a controller in her life can suddenly play games with a bunch of people and hold her own with almost no skill but if more and more of these games are being made at the expense of other games what exactly do we hardcore gamers have to be grateful for?


 If the games on the Wii actually made it impossible for people to make the games you like on the 360, then I would agree with this analogy. 

But it doesn't, so the analogy isn't sound. I repeat: if games for the masses really did stop companies from making games for you, then this definitely would be a bad thing. But it doesn't do that, so it's okay.

Put simply: this isn't the same because you don't have to fish in the same waters as these petty commoners. Because of that, your analogy is void.  



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MontanaHatchet said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
MontanaHatchet said:

Who cares about the fact that your mother or grandma or pet iguana can finally get into gaming?! You think the industry cares? You think your mom sits around playing videogames for hours a week and makes sure to always visit Gamestop when she goes to the mall?!

Ask yourself that.

It wasn't long ago that most moms and grandmas didn't even care about video games.

Today some do.

Nothing changes overnight but the Wii is slowly changing things.

Those moms and grandamas may not be visiting gamestop today, but tomorrow... who can say.
By then the Wii's lifespan will be over.

 


Because the strategy proving fruitful on the DS magically won't work on the Wii.


Pretty much.


Sorry, but that won't prove the Wii will fail. You have to tell us WHY the Wii won't suceed where the DS did. 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs