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Words Of Wisdom on 16 November 2007
fkusumot said:

What? What numbers are you using?


Magical numbers from a land of sweets and joy and joyness...



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Avinash_Tyagi on 16 November 2007

MS fanboy numbers

 

Magical numbers from a land of sweets and joy and joyness...

 

Germany?

 

No wait that's the land of chocolate, mmmm...chocolate 

 



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Bodhesatva on 17 November 2007
areseris said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
MontanaHatchet said:
The problem is that there have always been games for all demographics, where's the evidence that the videogame market would have crashed under "the old ways"?

There may have been games for all demographics(doubtful, but for the sake of argument), but controls were a barrier to entry, most would look at a controller and become intimidated, but with Wii that is not an issue, even elderly folks who never played games are having fun


Why exactly do you want videogames to go mainstream? That would be a horrible, horrible thing imo. Everything that goes mainstream tends to turn into crap. Why do you want dumbed down games for the masses?

If that were to happen, then I would give up consoles and just stick to the PC.

It's bad enough that the movie&music industries produces mostly crap (and you have to really search for quality art), now we want to ruin videogames too?

Let developers create the games they actually want to... not the ones that sell to the masses just so the producers can make some coin (EA).

Can you imagin how bad videogames would be if we had 30 Michael Bay types for every 1 Martin Scorcese?

Let the videogame industry concentrate on pleasing it's core customer and let the industry grow slowly. Why must we be recognized by the masses at all?

 


I just want to point out how idiotic it is to compare the mass market games to Michael Bay flicks, and the "hardcore" games to Martin Scorsese ones (yes, you spelled his name wrong, which is rather funny, considereing your implicit suggestion that you are more sophisticated than hoi polloi).

It's the "hardcore" gamers that are bankrupting the gaming companies demanding high end graphics, tons of guns and and tons of action.

It's the casual gamers that don't care about visuals and aren't particularly concerned with action or explosions.

I would contend that nothing in the gaming industry is akin to Scorsese yet, but when talking about Michael Bay, your mega budget, action packed Halo and Metal Gear are much more similar to Michael Bay flicks than simple, low budget, low action games like Wii Play or Brain Age.

In short, the problem with your analogy is that both Metal Gear and Wii Play are infantile. Therefore, your claim of some sort of intellectual superiority or sophistication is invalid.

My overall stance: you'd rather get games that cater exclusively and only to you than to see the video game industry grow. I think that's quite selfish, but you're certainly entitled to be selfish.

 



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MontanaHatchet on 17 November 2007

Well, we're om Vgchartz, and I said both charts combined, so I'm just using made up numbers.

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Nice job guys.



 

 

fkusumot on 17 November 2007

MontanaHatchet said:
Well, we're om Vgchartz, and I said both charts combined, so I'm just using made up numbers.

MontanaHatchet said:

The truth is that the Xbox 360 is moving more software worldwide than any other console. Even with the American and Japanese charts combined, the DS still can't compare.


Which made up numbers? You said the truth is that the Xbox 360 is moving more software worldwide than any other console and the DS can't compare. What is the number of Xbox 360 software compared to the DS software? Do the mods have access to numbers the rest of us don't have?

I Blame Wii Fit!

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MontanaHatchet on 17 November 2007

Ahhhhh, now I see.

Perhaps worldwide is a bit hasty...

 



 

 

fkusumot on 17 November 2007

MontanaHatchet said:

Ahhhhh, now I see.

Perhaps worldwide is a bit hasty...

MontanaHatchet said:
Well, we're om Vgchartz, and I said both charts combined, so I'm just using made up numbers.

MontanaHatchet said:

The truth is that the Xbox 360 is moving more software worldwide than any other console. Even with the American and Japanese charts combined, the DS still can't compare.


 Yes, you said it was the truth so I would still be interested to know what the numbers are and what your source is. 



I Blame Wii Fit!

MontanaHatchet on 17 November 2007
fkusumot said:

MontanaHatchet said:

Ahhhhh, now I see.

Perhaps worldwide is a bit hasty...

MontanaHatchet said:
Well, we're om Vgchartz, and I said both charts combined, so I'm just using made up numbers.

MontanaHatchet said:

The truth is that the Xbox 360 is moving more software worldwide than any other console. Even with the American and Japanese charts combined, the DS still can't compare.


Yes, you said it was the truth so I would still be interested to know what the numbers are and what your source is.


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fkusumot on 17 November 2007
MontanaHatchet said:
fkusumot said:

MontanaHatchet said:

Ahhhhh, now I see.

Perhaps worldwide is a bit hasty...

MontanaHatchet said:
Well, we're om Vgchartz, and I said both charts combined, so I'm just using made up numbers.

MontanaHatchet said:

The truth is that the Xbox 360 is moving more software worldwide than any other console. Even with the American and Japanese charts combined, the DS still can't compare.


Yes, you said it was the truth so I would still be interested to know what the numbers are and what your source is.


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 What's that mean?



I Blame Wii Fit!

MontanaHatchet on 17 November 2007
fkusumot said:
MontanaHatchet said:
fkusumot said:

MontanaHatchet said:

Ahhhhh, now I see.

Perhaps worldwide is a bit hasty...

MontanaHatchet said:
Well, we're om Vgchartz, and I said both charts combined, so I'm just using made up numbers.

MontanaHatchet said:

The truth is that the Xbox 360 is moving more software worldwide than any other console. Even with the American and Japanese charts combined, the DS still can't compare.


Yes, you said it was the truth so I would still be interested to know what the numbers are and what your source is.


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What's that mean?

Like I said, I realized my mistake.

In impulse, I accidently said worldwide instead of Japan and America.

My mistake. I should have made it clearer.