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Kasz216 said:
Khuutra said:

You don't like how pokemon plays. THat's fine. It's not for you, and it never will be retooled to be for you.

There

THat's all there is


Also there have been actually a LOT of changes between the games. They're just stuff you don't notice right away. The story hasn't changed... but the story is about as vital to a pokemon game as it is to a Mario game.

I think they're asking for more than the changes that have been implemented, is what I mean.



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Khuutra said:
Kasz216 said:
Khuutra said:

You don't like how pokemon plays. THat's fine. It's not for you, and it never will be retooled to be for you.

There

THat's all there is


Also there have been actually a LOT of changes between the games. They're just stuff you don't notice right away. The story hasn't changed... but the story is about as vital to a pokemon game as it is to a Mario game.

I think they're asking for more than the changes that have been implemented, is what I mean.


I know, but i mean to do so would be like changing the entire franchise. The story is... pointless... whats left? To not make it turn based?

Everyone in the thread easily identified under the infallible Nazna system of Pokemon demographics.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=101303&page=1&str=2010827111#



I'm wondering if they realise that all the Maddens, FIFAs and Call of Duties are remakes too?



Kasz216 said:
Khuutra said:
Xoj said:

though u know there are other games of excitement that climbing a building to fight a space like looking guy that uses some kind of cat as a cat pokemon.

games does need variety. or end being tedious. pokemon haven't change since the first one in that way, they just added more pokemons.

instead of snorlax blocking ur way to continue , now u have a  psyducks with headache.

You don't like how pokemon plays. THat's fine. It's not for you, and it never will be retooled to be for you.

There

THat's all there is


Also there have been actually a LOT of changes between the games. They're just stuff you don't notice right away. The story hasn't changed... but the story is about as vital to a pokemon game as it is to a Mario game.

To be honest, the last GREAT change was the implementation of Effort in III Generation. You could mention the Wi-Fi features in DPt, but that's was natural to happen. In fact, to be considered a change, it would have to use the connection in more ways than just trading in GTS (which appeared to be a lair of hackers), uploading your team to be randomly challenged in one's Battle Tower and making it impossible to use the WFC in a really good way. I don't know what implementations they made since Platinum (like the Wi-Fi Plaza), but, to me, it looks like it hasn't changed this status of online Pokémon (and perhaps this is why Pokémon Battle Revolution is worth buying).

alfredofroylan said:

I'm wondering if they realise that all the Maddens, FIFAs and Call of Duties are remakes too?

Madden and FIFA are yearly games, so you don't expect too much changes from the previous version. Call of Duty is taking this way, also, but their last games changed in presentation and in story, so you couldn't actually put the franchise in this list. The point is that, since Red & Blue, the story hasn't changed: get a Pokédex, the eight badges, defeat an evil team with a megalomaniac boss, climb your way to the Elite 4 and cacth'em all.

It gets to a point that you can't stand it anymore, and you give up the game. Team Rocket, Magma, Aqua, Galactic, they're all the same... And, no matter what people say (not even as Game Freak said), we all know the V Generation will bring little, if any, improvements in story and gameplay. If they do it in story, it'll really change (and, thus, making the game worth buying); if they do in gameplay, it'll certainly be in a stupid minigame section which is not needed in the story progress (contests, Battle Frontier and Pokéathlon were never necessary, and, at some point, become even irritating).

But the truth is: Game Freak doesn't care AT ALL. Their only purpose on doing a new game is to get more kids slaved by the cute styles of new Pokémon, and also to fool long-time fans who were expecting massive changes in gameplay/story, and thus earning more cash. If you look closely, Pokémon could be on the list of neoliberalist franchises, alongside Coca-Cola and McDonald's: they're everywhere, they addict you, they suck your money and aren't of quality at all (honestly, Coke destroys you teeth and Ronald and his friends make you fat and are tasteless).



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Maneco did you not know about the type moves being split between special and physical, or what?

It made Ghost STAB moves actually viable

It changed the entire face of the battling scene



Khuutra said:
Maneco did you not know about the type moves being split between special and physical, or what?

It made Ghost STAB moves actually viable

It changed the entire face of the battling scene

Yeah... Forgot that, sorry. Still, it was predictable and came too late.



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Maneco said:
Khuutra said:
Maneco did you not know about the type moves being split between special and physical, or what?

It made Ghost STAB moves actually viable

It changed the entire face of the battling scene

Yeah... Forgot that, sorry. Still, it was predictable and came too late.

Whoa, whoa whoa

It was predictable that they'd change the primary core offensive mechanic of the entire franchise as radically as has been ever done before? Really now.

And it - the most radical gameplay change in the history of the franchise - came too late? So all changes that actually matter - not this stuff about plot or setting or sequence, which is all meaningless - would come too late?

Go into Naz's topic and pick out a profile for yourself, if you would. I'm curious about what you pick.



I don't know what you guys see in pokemon games to be honest but meh one mans trash is another man's treasure



Khuutra said:
Maneco said:
Khuutra said:
Maneco did you not know about the type moves being split between special and physical, or what?

It made Ghost STAB moves actually viable

It changed the entire face of the battling scene

Yeah... Forgot that, sorry. Still, it was predictable and came too late.

Whoa, whoa whoa

It was predictable that they'd change the primary core offensive mechanic of the entire franchise as radically as has been ever done before? Really now.

And it - the most radical gameplay change in the history of the franchise - came too late? So all changes that actually matter - not this stuff about plot or setting or sequence, which is all meaningless - would come too late?

Go into Naz's topic and pick out a profile for yourself, if you would. I'm curious about what you pick.

Perhaps it's a big change to you, not to me (perhaps because I've never had such a strong team as i have in DPt)... And, by the way, I consider myself a nostalgist hardcore.



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