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How Will Xbox Live Work on Windows Phone 7?

Apple may have the iPhone, but the iPhone doesn't have the Xbox. Today, Microsoft leveraged their most compelling entertainment asset, the Xbox 360, into Windows Phone 7 Series. But what does this mean, practically speaking?

(Note: If you don't understand what the heck Windows Phone 7 is, read this first.)

Here's the official word from Microsoft on how WP7 will incorporate Xbox Live.

"Games—This hub delivers the first and only official Xbox LIVE experience on a phone, including Xbox LIVE games, Spotlight feed and the ability to see a gamer's avatar, Achievements and gamer profile. With more than 23 million active members around the world, Xbox LIVE unlocks a world of friends, games and entertainment on Xbox 360, and now also on Windows Phone 7 Series."

What we saw in Microsoft's demo today fleshes that concept out a bit. There will be a Spotlight section, with your Xbox Live avatar and notice of friends' achievements. And of course, there will be games—"premium titles" with achievements and multiplayer connected to other cellphones, PCs and Xbox 360 consoles.

Don't let the simple interface fool you. Xbox Live on a phone is more than having your avatar on one more screen because of the three types of games I believe we'll see on Windows Phone 7.

 

The Three Games of Windows 7 Phone

The first type of game will be a lot like an iPhone title. Powerful pocket hardware will push impressive graphics (that make the PSP and DS look sad). That's a simple idea that I know all of you can wrap your heads around.

Now, some of these games may be released cross-platform, as Microsoft teased today. They'll be what I classify as the second type of gaming on Windows Phone 7—casual, connected titles that allow anyone with a Live account to join in (no matter if they're on a WP7, 360 or PC). You won't see the most beautiful XBLA titles on the phone, of course, but something like Worms? Why not? A buy it once, play it anywhere model would make this type of game incredibly enticing.

The third type of game—the one that will appeal most to the hardcore gamers—is the Xbox 360 expanded title, something unmentioned by Microsoft but that I see coming a mile away. Imagine a minigame accompaniment to Halo that could unlock more content/resources/anything. Now imagine that such a game is driven by some of the most powerful handheld processors in the world. (You should be picturing something that looks a lot like Call of Duty's Nazi Zombies on the iPhone.) But with the iPhone, Nazi Zombies never leaves your phone—nothing about it will affect your Call of Duty experience on your home console.

Such no longer needs to be the case when the game is connected to Live. AAA franchises can make their way to the mobile space with Microsoft in a way that they never could with Apple. Put differently, pocketable games can have console-level repercussions.

Microsoft's Mobile Trump Card: Nobody Else Has an Xbox Live...Not Really

While the iPhone is a treasure trove of pocketable amusements, they're pretty much self-contained entities working in a closed box. Sadly, pretty much the same thing can be said about the Nintendo DS or Sony PSP. Nintendo and Sony have both experimented with connecting their mobile and home platforms on a title-by-title basis (and no doubt, the PSP's early promise of Remote Play still sounds like a revolutionary idea today), but neither company has been all that successful in bridging the gap to create a seamless digital experience.

Plus, let's face it, neither Sony nor Nintendo is relevant in the smartphone business—the present and future of pocket gaming. And while the iPhone is tough competition, it's one phone. Windows Phone 7 Series is a specification (that includes baseline hardware specs and software specs) for many phones that could potentially be on many carriers.

Imagine if Nintendo let any willing manufacturer integrate Wii/DS services. That's essentially what Microsoft is doing here.

But when it really comes down to it, is Microsoft selling us the Xbox 360 experience on cellphones, or are they pitching putting cellphone games on the Xbox 360? And will anyone want to create original, non-ported content for the Windows 7 Phone Series when there are 75 million iPhones and iPod touches out there already?

Time will tell. Despite what promises to be the most full-featured mobile gaming platform of all time, Microsoft must woo developers to create compelling mobile content before any of this matters.



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Honestly, I can't see why it should become somehow huger than Samsung and Nokia devices. And I don't think that stigma of Live is right to position and market it onto a mass market such as smart phones. Not to mention that their prototype looks too much like Motorola Droid, so it's pretty weak from fashion perspective, too.

Right now I'm more interested in Samsung announcements, their offerings became very strong recently with Jet and Corby models, and Wave from MWC'10 seems like a bomb, too.



Shame about having to wait until nearly 2011 to get it, really needs to be out now. It is a nice looking phone and the biggest selling point is that it will be on multiple hardware platforms not just one which should mean that it can keep pace with anything Apple may throw at it whilst keeping the price down. Also good news for iPhone fans is they now have something which competes so hopefully the prices will be more realistic along with the tariffs.



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As I can upgrade my phone for free next month I have done my best not to hear what the latest features are on phones yet to be released because I will get jealous no phone I can get will have them.

Just read everything on here and I'm jealous just like I knew I would be.
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This fall should be a HUGE quarter for the MS EDD division.
- Natal, Halo Reach, Fable 3,
- Windows phones that don't suck.
- Office for Mac 2011



For anyone who hasn't used a ZuneHD. The UI is an absolute joy to use. From that video, WM7 is heavily borrowing from the ZuneHD UI.



MDMAniac said:

Honestly, I can't see why it should become somehow huger than Samsung and Nokia devices. And I don't think that stigma of Live is right to position and market it onto a mass market such as smart phones. Not to mention that their prototype looks too much like Motorola Droid, so it's pretty weak from fashion perspective, too.

Right now I'm more interested in Samsung announcements, their offerings became very strong recently with Jet and Corby models, and Wave from MWC'10 seems like a bomb, too.


get Windows Mobil 7 on a samsung phone --> problem solved,



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

This phone series is going to EXPLODE with the xbox live crowd...I'm not even an achievement whore, and I desparately want this phone because it will enable me to get APs for all that time spent playing card games in airports...yeah...it's going to be big.

I am probably going to dump my Zune HD and get the full monty with a super Winmo 7 phone that does everything.  Thise phone is probably going to be the only phone capable of challenging BB for corporate users...I like my BB 9000, but the interface is very clumsy in alot of ways. 



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