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wholikeswood on 04 February 2010
NJ5 said:
Good result for the company, all the cost cutting (layoffs etc) paid off.

As for the Gaming/VAIO/Walkman division, not so great. They barely made a profit, in the holiday quarter that's not a great result:

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/09q3/slide/image/14_image.jpg

It also says the profit was mostly due to VAIO, and gaming profitability unchanged (which basically means they broke even, as that was the result last year).

Summing up - good for Sony, not so good for the gaming division.

The gaming part of Networked Products breaking even just as the previous year is surely to be expected, considering the $100 cut effectively returned hardware profit/loss status to what it had been during the previous holiday season by nullifying manufacturing cost reductions made in early 2009.



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ahwang826 on 04 February 2010

if sony's report is the end of dec...isnt ps3 undertracked by a lot?



NJ5 on 04 February 2010
wholikeswood said:
NJ5 said:
Good result for the company, all the cost cutting (layoffs etc) paid off.

As for the Gaming/VAIO/Walkman division, not so great. They barely made a profit, in the holiday quarter that's not a great result:

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/09q3/slide/image/14_image.jpg

It also says the profit was mostly due to VAIO, and gaming profitability unchanged (which basically means they broke even, as that was the result last year).

Summing up - good for Sony, not so good for the gaming division.

The gaming part of Networked Products breaking even just as the previous year is surely to be expected, considering the $100 cut effectively returned hardware profit/loss status to what it had been during the previous holiday season by nullifying manufacturing cost reductions made in early 2009.

True, but software sales should be improving each year which could make it a net positive.

I think the issue is more with PS2/PSP declining. The improvements on PS3 profitability are just enough to counter the drops on the other platforms. I've been pointing at this factor for a while when discussing future profitability of Sony's gaming business.

 

quaiky said:
NJ5 said:
@makingmusic476: WTF, I thought they ended this shipped/produced confusion a while ago?

think sold in this consideration is sold to retailers and not sold to endusers. but this would mean that the gap of over 2.5 million would have been all sitting on teh shelves of retailers for which it should be too big.

Sales to end users are completely unrelated to this discussion. It's about shipments to retailers vs manufacturing.

 



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jneul on 04 February 2010
ahwang826 said:
if sony's report is the end of dec...isnt ps3 undertracked by a lot?

yes 2 million ps3's sitting around is way too much, especially with some places having shortages, i still think 32.5(to us gamers) million for ps3 and that's me being as neutral as possible.



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Zlejedi on 04 February 2010

Well I'm more concerned about 7 millions diffrence in PSP. There must be lot of undertracking on this machine for eastern europe, asia , south america (in other words for places where free pirated games are big incentive to buy console)



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Twistedpixel on 04 February 2010
jneul said:
ahwang826 said:
if sony's report is the end of dec...isnt ps3 undertracked by a lot?

yes 2 million ps3's sitting around is way too much, especially with some places having shortages, i still think 32.5(to us gamers) million for ps3 and that's me being as neutral as possible.

Shipped also includes consoles which have been sold but not dispatched, consoles on the boat and consoles within warehouses awaiting to be dispatched to stores.



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jneul on 04 February 2010
Twistedpixel said:
jneul said:
ahwang826 said:
if sony's report is the end of dec...isnt ps3 undertracked by a lot?

yes 2 million ps3's sitting around is way too much, especially with some places having shortages, i still think 32.5(to us gamers) million for ps3 and that's me being as neutral as possible.

Shipped also includes consoles which have been sold but not dispatched, consoles on the boat and consoles within warehouses awaiting to be dispatched to stores.

i know, but i still think 2 million whether they be on shelves or in warehouses is too high!!



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dravenmanson on 04 February 2010

PS3 :VG 30.34M / SONY 33.52M >>> - 3.18M
PSP : VG 52.72M / SONY 60.1M >>> - 7.38M
PS2 : 134.07M / SONY 142.8M >>> - 8.73M



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Twistedpixel on 04 February 2010
jneul said:
Twistedpixel said:

Shipped also includes consoles which have been sold but not dispatched, consoles on the boat and consoles within warehouses awaiting to be dispatched to stores.

i know, but i still think 2 million whether they be on shelves or in warehouses is too high!!

Oh yeah they can also include future orders in that data as well. If they have 'sold' something to be delivered later then they can put it on the books even if the PS3s in question don't exist anymore.



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NJ5 on 04 February 2010

I believe the PS2/PSP figures include produced consoles that were never shipped to retailers... such as consoles used for replacing broken consoles, etc.

At least I remember this being talked about a lot of times before.



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