By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sales Discussion - Sony says GAP is 8 million!

selnor on 04 February 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

You u can exaggerate numbers and no you won't end up like enron.that only happens when you do it alot.many companie's have exaggerated alot in the past.

Well, you can stuff the channel, but you usually pay for it the next cycle.  See 360 in late 2006 (to hit 10m), or PSP in late 2005/early 2006 (to keep pace with DS).

Still, it doesn't look like MS is channel stuffing now.

yeah but they haven't sold to consumer 39m by any chance

Sure, but I don't believe Microsoft ever said they have?

they did at ces and in their recent financial report

If they actually said they SOLD to CONSUMERS 39 million. Then I believe them. Shareholders and certain laws are in place to protect them against making stock decisions based on company lies. M$ legal department will know this.

many companies do it again and again.only the ceo knows what exactly is happening.they would just minus 2m shipments from the next quater's figures and be done.that happens alot.

 

and no MS didn't say shipped to consumers but you can't have 2m extra units on the shelves too.so most probably they are bluffing or they overshipped and not alot of consumers bought them.

 

whereas sony said they shipped 31m and they sold 31m in last quarter as figures show.there is a proof,there were PS3 shortages in dec itself

Can you post a link to any shortages? I knew of none. Also Sony never said anything that I ever read. PS3 was easily available. If 31m is shipped, then we definately have PS3 sales wrong on this site.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=98404

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=97551

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=97107

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=96822

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=95991

 

the ps3 was sold out at many places around 17th dec.and almost all online retailers were out of stock a week before christmas

LOL. These arent shortages. These are phase outs in 1 or 2 stores. LOL.

Like I said nothing at all from IGN ro Websites in general or Sony themselves about shortages. Anyways now we know the shipped figure is 33.5 million we know there wasnt shortages. Over 2 million sat in shops around the world.



Around the Network
Solid_Snake4RD on 04 February 2010
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

You u can exaggerate numbers and no you won't end up like enron.that only happens when you do it alot.many companie's have exaggerated alot in the past.

Well, you can stuff the channel, but you usually pay for it the next cycle.  See 360 in late 2006 (to hit 10m), or PSP in late 2005/early 2006 (to keep pace with DS).

Still, it doesn't look like MS is channel stuffing now.

yeah but they haven't sold to consumer 39m by any chance

Sure, but I don't believe Microsoft ever said they have?

they did at ces and in their recent financial report

If they actually said they SOLD to CONSUMERS 39 million. Then I believe them. Shareholders and certain laws are in place to protect them against making stock decisions based on company lies. M$ legal department will know this.

many companies do it again and again.only the ceo knows what exactly is happening.they would just minus 2m shipments from the next quater's figures and be done.that happens alot.

 

and no MS didn't say shipped to consumers but you can't have 2m extra units on the shelves too.so most probably they are bluffing or they overshipped and not alot of consumers bought them.

 

whereas sony said they shipped 31m and they sold 31m in last quarter as figures show.there is a proof,there were PS3 shortages in dec itself

Can you post a link to any shortages? I knew of none. Also Sony never said anything that I ever read. PS3 was easily available. If 31m is shipped, then we definately have PS3 sales wrong on this site.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=98404

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=97551

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=97107

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=96822

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=95991

 

the ps3 was sold out at many places around 17th dec.and almost all online retailers were out of stock a week before christmas

LOL. These arent shortages. These are phase outs in 1 or 2 stores. LOL.

Like I said nothing at all from IGN ro Websites in general or Sony themselves about shortages. Anyways now we know the shipped figure is 33.5 million we know there wasnt shortages. Over 2 million sat in shops around the world.

nah those aren't phase out.they were out of stock till around 20th of January last month.they just didn't have any stock atall.there were just 250gbs in stock,no 120gbs were available cause they were all sold out

 

and just because ign didn't do an article doesn't means that it didn't happen.IGN hasn't written an article on many issues of gaming does it mean that those things didn't happed



Kenoid on 04 February 2010

I agree with ioi, could be a mistake by Peter Dille



                                  

                                       That's Gordon Freeman in "Real-Life"
 

 

Kasz216 on 04 February 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

You u can exaggerate numbers and no you won't end up like enron.that only happens when you do it alot.many companie's have exaggerated alot in the past.

Well, you can stuff the channel, but you usually pay for it the next cycle.  See 360 in late 2006 (to hit 10m), or PSP in late 2005/early 2006 (to keep pace with DS).

Still, it doesn't look like MS is channel stuffing now.

yeah but they haven't sold to consumer 39m by any chance

Sure, but I don't believe Microsoft ever said they have?

they did at ces and in their recent financial report

If they actually said they SOLD to CONSUMERS 39 million. Then I believe them. Shareholders and certain laws are in place to protect them against making stock decisions based on company lies. M$ legal department will know this.

many companies do it again and again.only the ceo knows what exactly is happening.they would just minus 2m shipments from the next quater's figures and be done.that happens alot.

 

and no MS didn't say shipped to consumers but you can't have 2m extra units on the shelves too.so most probably they are bluffing or they overshipped and not alot of consumers bought them.

 

whereas sony said they shipped 31m and they sold 31m in last quarter as figures show.there is a proof,there were PS3 shortages in dec itself

Can you post a link to any shortages? I knew of none. Also Sony never said anything that I ever read. PS3 was easily available. If 31m is shipped, then we definately have PS3 sales wrong on this site.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=98404

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=97551

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=97107

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=96822

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=95991

 

the ps3 was sold out at many places around 17th dec.and almost all online retailers were out of stock a week before christmas

LOL. These arent shortages. These are phase outs in 1 or 2 stores. LOL.

Like I said nothing at all from IGN ro Websites in general or Sony themselves about shortages. Anyways now we know the shipped figure is 33.5 million we know there wasnt shortages. Over 2 million sat in shops around the world.

nah those aren't phase out.they were out of stock till around 20th of January last month.they just didn't have any stock atall.there were just 250gbs in stock,no 120gbs were available cause they were all sold out

 

and just because ign didn't do an article doesn't means that it didn't happen.IGN hasn't written an article on many issues of gaming does it mean that those things didn't happed

There were official articles about a console being sold out.

That console was NOT the Playstation 3.

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/ps3-to-see-best-growth-in-january-as-wii-suffers-meaningful-shortages-says-analyst/

There would of been an article had this been the case.

If anything considering what this guy said vs Sony's official shipped numbers... they've got like 2.7 million consoles on shelves world wide.



gekkokamen on 04 February 2010

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=100098&page=1#

/thread



Around the Network
Xbbjf9s on 04 February 2010
Kenoid said:
I agree with ioi, could be a mistake by Peter Dille


Right, he is in charge of the PSN ins't he? Didn't Stringer say 33m?



jneul on 04 February 2010
gekkokamen said:
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=100098&page=1#

/thread

Agreed can someone lock this flaimbait thread please



it's the future of handheld

PS VITA = LIFE

The official Vita thread http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=130023&page=1

Kasz216 on 04 February 2010
Xbbjf9s said:
Kenoid said:
I agree with ioi, could be a mistake by Peter Dille


Right, he is in charge of the PSN ins't he? Didn't Stringer say 33m?

That and... the actual shipped numbers are out now... so there isn't really a reason to keep argueing about this.  It indeed was about 33 million.  33.5 shipped actually.

The guy must be talking sellthrough numbers.  Which is as stated, very rare for Sony to do.  It may actually be the first time.



Solid_Snake4RD on 04 February 2010
Kasz216 said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

You u can exaggerate numbers and no you won't end up like enron.that only happens when you do it alot.many companie's have exaggerated alot in the past.

Well, you can stuff the channel, but you usually pay for it the next cycle.  See 360 in late 2006 (to hit 10m), or PSP in late 2005/early 2006 (to keep pace with DS).

Still, it doesn't look like MS is channel stuffing now.

yeah but they haven't sold to consumer 39m by any chance

Sure, but I don't believe Microsoft ever said they have?

they did at ces and in their recent financial report

If they actually said they SOLD to CONSUMERS 39 million. Then I believe them. Shareholders and certain laws are in place to protect them against making stock decisions based on company lies. M$ legal department will know this.

many companies do it again and again.only the ceo knows what exactly is happening.they would just minus 2m shipments from the next quater's figures and be done.that happens alot.

 

and no MS didn't say shipped to consumers but you can't have 2m extra units on the shelves too.so most probably they are bluffing or they overshipped and not alot of consumers bought them.

 

whereas sony said they shipped 31m and they sold 31m in last quarter as figures show.there is a proof,there were PS3 shortages in dec itself

Can you post a link to any shortages? I knew of none. Also Sony never said anything that I ever read. PS3 was easily available. If 31m is shipped, then we definately have PS3 sales wrong on this site.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=98404

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=97551

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=97107

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=96822

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=95991

 

the ps3 was sold out at many places around 17th dec.and almost all online retailers were out of stock a week before christmas

LOL. These arent shortages. These are phase outs in 1 or 2 stores. LOL.

Like I said nothing at all from IGN ro Websites in general or Sony themselves about shortages. Anyways now we know the shipped figure is 33.5 million we know there wasnt shortages. Over 2 million sat in shops around the world.

nah those aren't phase out.they were out of stock till around 20th of January last month.they just didn't have any stock atall.there were just 250gbs in stock,no 120gbs were available cause they were all sold out

 

and just because ign didn't do an article doesn't means that it didn't happen.IGN hasn't written an article on many issues of gaming does it mean that those things didn't happed

There were official articles about a console being sold out.

That console was NOT the Playstation 3.

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/ps3-to-see-best-growth-in-january-as-wii-suffers-meaningful-shortages-says-analyst/

There would of been an article had this been the case.

If anything considering what this guy said vs Sony's official shipped numbers... they've got like 2.7 million consoles on shelves world wide.

you should know by now that wat bullshit analysts say.the only time when there were Wii shortages were from the end of january.

 

the whole first half of january and the last 10 days of dec,ps3 120gbs were out of stock everywhere.only 250gbs were available.apparantly sony shipped more 250gbs cause they are making little(or profit)on them.



Xbbjf9s on 04 February 2010
Kasz216 said:
Xbbjf9s said:
Kenoid said:
I agree with ioi, could be a mistake by Peter Dille


Right, he is in charge of the PSN ins't he? Didn't Stringer say 33m?

That and... the actual shipped numbers are out now... so there isn't really a reason to keep argueing about this.  It indeed was about 33 million.  33.5 shipped actually.

The guy must be talking sellthrough numbers.  Which is as stated, very rare for Sony to do.  It may actually be the first time.

I'm a bit confused, so the numbers that are on this site are the amount of units that the consumers or retailers buy?