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So I dont understand. Are we to believe that there all but no PS3's in stock right now????

Without a doubt Sony are talking sold to to retail. Thats a given. They always do. So if they have sold 31+ million on this site that would mean major shortages no????
Why have we not heard about them?????

Something isnt right. Somewhere. But surely Sony/M$ arent wrong? Surely they not what their own consoles are doing better than anyone else?



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selnor said:
So I dont understand. Are we to believe that there all but no PS3's in stock right now????

Without a doubt Sony are talking sold to to retail. Thats a given. They always do. So if they have sold 31+ million on this site that would mean major shortages no????
Why have we not heard about them?????

Something isnt right. Somewhere. But surely Sony/M$ arent wrong? Surely they not what their own consoles are doing better than anyone else?

I recall there were shortages.

 

As for Xbox 360 units sold, it's safe to say he mixed up with units sold to retailers.



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Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

You u can exaggerate numbers and no you won't end up like enron.that only happens when you do it alot.many companie's have exaggerated alot in the past.

Well, you can stuff the channel, but you usually pay for it the next cycle.  See 360 in late 2006 (to hit 10m), or PSP in late 2005/early 2006 (to keep pace with DS).

Still, it doesn't look like MS is channel stuffing now.

yeah but they haven't sold to consumer 39m by any chance

Sure, but I don't believe Microsoft ever said they have?



arsenicazure said:
software sales on multiplat titles doesnt really support the 8 million gap theory...

Software sales don't scale with userbase, in fact game attach ratios tend to favor smaller bases.  Multiplatform games last gen weren't 6:1 for PS2:GC or PS2:Xbox either.



huaxiong90 said:
selnor said:
So I dont understand. Are we to believe that there all but no PS3's in stock right now????

Without a doubt Sony are talking sold to to retail. Thats a given. They always do. So if they have sold 31+ million on this site that would mean major shortages no????
Why have we not heard about them?????

Something isnt right. Somewhere. But surely Sony/M$ arent wrong? Surely they not what their own consoles are doing better than anyone else?

I recall there were shortages.

 

As for Xbox 360 units sold, it's safe to say he mixed up with units sold to retailers.

Ive never seen shortgaes here in UK. It was available all through Xmas and now. The Wii had signs outside saying Out of stock. The PS3 has never had that in my city. Wierd. Also I never saw it on any websites like you do with the wii. I knew nothing of any shortages on or offline.

It all seems strange to me. Also why would a Sony exec say the gap is 8 million when  it isn't? Surely it's in Sony's best interest to say it's closer?



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jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

You u can exaggerate numbers and no you won't end up like enron.that only happens when you do it alot.many companie's have exaggerated alot in the past.

Well, you can stuff the channel, but you usually pay for it the next cycle.  See 360 in late 2006 (to hit 10m), or PSP in late 2005/early 2006 (to keep pace with DS).

Still, it doesn't look like MS is channel stuffing now.

yeah but they haven't sold to consumer 39m by any chance

Sure, but I don't believe Microsoft ever said they have?

they did at ces and in their recent financial report



Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

You u can exaggerate numbers and no you won't end up like enron.that only happens when you do it alot.many companie's have exaggerated alot in the past.

Well, you can stuff the channel, but you usually pay for it the next cycle.  See 360 in late 2006 (to hit 10m), or PSP in late 2005/early 2006 (to keep pace with DS).

Still, it doesn't look like MS is channel stuffing now.

yeah but they haven't sold to consumer 39m by any chance

Sure, but I don't believe Microsoft ever said they have?

they did at ces and in their recent financial report

If they actually said they SOLD to CONSUMERS 39 million. Then I believe them. Shareholders and certain laws are in place to protect them against making stock decisions based on company lies. M$ legal department will know this.



selnor said:
huaxiong90 said:
selnor said:
So I dont understand. Are we to believe that there all but no PS3's in stock right now????

Without a doubt Sony are talking sold to to retail. Thats a given. They always do. So if they have sold 31+ million on this site that would mean major shortages no????
Why have we not heard about them?????

Something isnt right. Somewhere. But surely Sony/M$ arent wrong? Surely they not what their own consoles are doing better than anyone else?

I recall there were shortages.

 

As for Xbox 360 units sold, it's safe to say he mixed up with units sold to retailers.

Ive never seen shortgaes here in UK. It was available all through Xmas and now. The Wii had signs outside saying Out of stock. The PS3 has never had that in my city. Wierd. Also I never saw it on any websites like you do with the wii. I knew nothing of any shortages on or offline.

It all seems strange to me. Also why would a Sony exec say the gap is 8 million when  it isn't? Surely it's in Sony's best interest to say it's closer?

Yeah, true. I guess hopefully they'll clarify soon enough.



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huaxiong90 said:
selnor said:
huaxiong90 said:
selnor said:
So I dont understand. Are we to believe that there all but no PS3's in stock right now????

Without a doubt Sony are talking sold to to retail. Thats a given. They always do. So if they have sold 31+ million on this site that would mean major shortages no????
Why have we not heard about them?????

Something isnt right. Somewhere. But surely Sony/M$ arent wrong? Surely they not what their own consoles are doing better than anyone else?

I recall there were shortages.

 

As for Xbox 360 units sold, it's safe to say he mixed up with units sold to retailers.

Ive never seen shortgaes here in UK. It was available all through Xmas and now. The Wii had signs outside saying Out of stock. The PS3 has never had that in my city. Wierd. Also I never saw it on any websites like you do with the wii. I knew nothing of any shortages on or offline.

It all seems strange to me. Also why would a Sony exec say the gap is 8 million when  it isn't? Surely it's in Sony's best interest to say it's closer?

Yeah, true. I guess hopefully they'll clarify soon enough.


Definately need clarification from the big 2. Because many dont view this site. But will listen to Sony and M$ figures. And shareholders will know Sony say the gap is 8 million.



CGI-Quality said:
ioi said:
Or what I said about 10 posts up...

Have some people ignored this completely?

yeah, i think they did. but obviously some ppl took it personally.



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PS3: 46 MIL (April Revision: 44 MIL, July Revision 43 MIL, Nov. Revision 45MIL)

360: 44 MIL (April Revision: 46 MIL, July Revision: 48 MIL, Nov. Revision 49MIL)

WII: 82 MIL (Apr. Revision: 84 MIL, Jul. Revision: 82 MIL, Nov. Revision: 82MIL)

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