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sundin13 said:
Jaicee said:

Concerning color-blindness...I mean I don't need a college degree to figure out that white racism is a real, ongoing problem in our society. Like I said, I try to treat people the same. It's not difficult to see that not everyone is being treated the same by society writ large. It's easy to notice a contrast between your own behavior and attitudes and shit you see on TV sometimes and attitudes you find in some of your neighbors. Like no, George Floyd did not die of a heart attack. Duh! You have to want to reach conclusions like that! I'm ain't saying that white racism isn't a real problem in today's America these days because it is. It obviously is. That doesn't take a lot of research to figure out. It just takes having any degree of empathy at all for people who don't look exactly like you.

Concerning your assessment that I disagree with you on the merits of critical race theory only because I "don't fully understand" what its saying, like I'm just too ignorant to agree with you or something, nah I don't think so. The essence isn't difficult to understand given five minutes of education therein. Critical theory is a Western academic variety of Marxism (literally, not hyperbolically) and critical race theory is a racialized version thereof wherein the focus is shifted away from class conflict to race conflict instead. It's really not that difficult to grasp the heart and soul of it. I'm not a Marxist. I find CRT just as impulsively repressive and simplistic in its sweeping conclusions about society as other varieties of Marxism. For example, when a black person attacks an Asian-American, guess who's fault that is according to CRT's more passionate subscribers? You guessed it: its somehow "white supremacy". Like it's somehow my fault. Why? Because in this brilliant theory of the case, all white people are racist bigots  because they're white (you read the OP) and no one else can be. It's really not that difficult to understand said message or to rationally find it disagreeable. Most people, if anything, might support critical race theory based on ignorance of its contents, assuming it's just benign education on what race discrimination looks like in the real world, only to discover a much larger message therein they object to later, on further learning. Once they learn a thing or two about it though, they more often than not object unless they're too young and naive to know better, which is why CRT "education" has emerged as a winning issue for the Republicans who favor banning it in swing districts here in my state already.

Likewise, one has to get up pretty early in the morning to see no connection between CRT and demands like that for de-funding local police departments. And like the survey I linked to before shows, most people do, in fact, lay at least part of the blame for the sustained uptick in violent crime we've seen over the last year in particular on the 'anti-racist' movement itself. Now most people can just be wrong, true and fair enough, but I really don't think they are. You petition me for a source on this. I've got plenty of evidence, but the most extensive, factual, well-substantiated, biting, and frankly convincing argument that liberal softness on crime -- cutting funding for local police forces and not prosecuting crimes -- is the root cause of this very new problem I've found is this one by Tucker Carlson. Whatever we think of Mr. Carlson more broadly (I certainly have my opinions), I find that nonetheless sometimes conservatives like him have a valid point or two that's tough to ignore even though they're conservatives and this is one of those cases. Policy proposals like de-funding police departments get people killed, and I don't mean mostly white people.

Is it really so far-fetched that White Supremacy would be at the root of Black-on-Asian violence? 

Let's break things down real quick. When we hear "white supremacy" we largely think of individuals who hold the belief that whites are inherently better and that they should have the power in society, but that isn't what we are talking about here. In this context, White Supremacy refers to the system of values in our society which places traits commonly associated with whiteness above traits associated with non-white groups. This can be something as simply as valuing light skin tones over darker skin tones, or something more cultural such as valuing a nuclear family set-up over other types of family structures. It also speaks to the series of beliefs and ideas which have largely been created and perpetuated by white individuals in power (more on this below).

This series of beliefs and values is passed down throughout the culture, regardless of race. Let's look at an example real quick:

It is largely through the power of white supremacy that the anti-Mexican sentiment that "the immigrants are taking our jobs" arose. Is it really that far-fetched to assume that a black individual who is unemployed, or under-employed may internalize this idea and develope animosity towards the Mexican population? And if they did, what would be the root cause? I would argue that the root cause is two fold: The structures that caused the individual to be unemployed or underemployed (often White Supremacy) and the structures which created this messaging (often White Supremacy). 

Because these values and beliefs emerge from power, it is often a pretty safe assumption that these broad, culture-wide sentiments can be attributed to White supremacy to at least some degree.

Now, what about Anti-Asian racism in the era of covid? I feel like you would pose little objection to the belief that this largely emerged from whites in power, be they White Republicans in politics, or white talking heads on Fox News, but I'll provide a source anyways: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01419870.2020.1839114

So, when a black person commits anti-Asian violence because of the beliefs they hold about the victim's role in the coronavirus, what stands at the root of this? Largely, racist sentiments perpetuated by whites in power and internalized by other communities. And the history of Black-Asian tensions have been going on for much longer than Covid. It is largely through white racism that a sense of competition between minority groups emerged (similar to the tension with Mexican immigrants described above). This article breaks down some of the history of Black-Asian tensions pretty well, but you can also look into the "model minority myth" if you want to do further reading: https://www.vox.com/22321234/black-asian-american-tensions-solidarity-history

Now, does this mean that you are to blame, or that any of this is a criticism of you personally? Of course not. This type of defensive attitude is something I see all too often and it is altogether misplaced. I work in the sciences. One of the most important things that we learn is about cognitive biases. It doesn't make me evil or bad or stupid for these biases to exist within my head. It is simply a part of human nature. However, it is through learning and understanding in which I am able to ensure that I don't act upon these biases. The same thing applies for racial biases. It doesn't make you a bad person to have biases in your head. Everyone does. That is the power of white supremacy. However, learning and understanding can help immensely in not just ensuring you aren't perpetuating White supremacy, but in dismantling it. 

As for your final point, I'll just say quickly that it should be telling that seemingly your best sources to back up your claims that the "Defund the Police" movement is causally linked to increases in violent crime is how some people feel and Tucker Carlson... I've said before that some people have demonstrated that they do not value truth and as such they are not worth listening to. Tucker is at the top of that list. If you wish to prove this point, you'll have to produce a better source than that. And this post is getting long, but I'll provide a quick source on why I don't believe this claim is particularly well supported: Crime has risen even in cities that didn't decrease funding for police. In Democratic-led cities, the homicide rate increased 36.2%, while in Republican-led cities, the homicide rate increased 35.6%. Further, while this has been a particularly loud issue, few cities have actually decreased their police budgets, and many of the ones that have didn't go into effect immediately. https://www.salon.com/2021/02/01/did-defund-the-police-lead-to-an-increase-in-murder-almost-certainly-not/

I don't want to say it, but it certainly seems like the power of white supremacy may be leading people to make improper assumptions about the effect of decreasing police funding, in order to keep funding up for one of the most powerful perpetuators of systemic racism...

Wow.. Just WOW. Dude you are so full of shit and i dont care if i get banned for this but really... Its my fault as a white guy if some black on Asian violence breaks out.. Man your a snow flack...