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Forums - Sales Discussion - When does Sony reach the point of no return in Japan?

jstam on 30 March 2007

Keep posts down to illogical ill informed nonsense guys or hus wont have a clue as to what your talking about



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jaspey on 30 March 2007

Games like Eye of Judgment: Conquerors of 9 Fields, hotshots golf and monster hunter will be massive in Japan. Sony will be satisfied with Japan sales considering the software drought and the fact that xbox360 is totally dead. The wii is a different market.



spitfire1945 on 30 March 2007

Hus said: its a fad. what reason is there to get a wii ? wii sports LOL (fad game).... Zelda you can get nearly the same thing on GC. so is it the 3rd party games.. pffff.... then what... Do gamers want FF on wii that looks like a PS2 game... or do they want massive worlds huge graphical improvements great physics on the PS3 ? imagine a FF mmo on PS3 and then one on Wii.... who the hell will want to play the MUCH inferior game ? say what you want but RPGs are driven by graphics, no one wants a ugly rpg.
Japanese could care less about graphics and physics in games... Their fav genres of games don't use neither of those!!! look at brain training for example!!! Other thing: I played PS3 games and in comparison of Wii and X360 just plain sucks!!! Games are flat as surf board and the reasons are only in the controller: without the rumble feature it stepped back 10 years in interaction. From slashing to hitting the pad is just "dead". Plus the two new L2 & R2 are like touching a chewing gum: they don't provide feedback to the users as it's impossible to know how much you are pressing them... Wiimote and X360 pad are miles ahead!! Sony are touching the bottom with this generation, just face it and accept it... They really have to convice me with something really good and new, 'cause as they stand now there are no reason to waste 600 euros on a machine that provide less fun that both of MS's and Nintendo's!



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spitfire1945 on 30 March 2007

superchunk said: Hus -- you are blind. You are missing the point, there are no japan system sellers for ps3 forecasted in the foreseeable future. However, there are plenty for the Wii. That will only continue to drive sales for the Wii and keep it at at least a 2:1 sales lead over the ps3 for the remainder of the year and will probably grow to similar levels as the DS. People like you kept saying wait for Gundam, wait for this and that. But, as each game came it sold like crap. All the while the Wii fad games keep in the top ten. You mention that RPG games require great graphics, what about FF12 on the PS2 or any DQ game. Hell, the next DQ game is going on DS hardware. That obviously won't be pushing the limits of modern graphics. Why? Sales base. The good games will drift to the best sales base. The next to DQ games on the DS and Wii will do very well, and then the next few DQ games will be on these systems as well. Then there's the other huge RPG, FF. FF13 will be on the PS3. It will help them, but that is what 1.5years away. After the DQ9 and DQSwords comes out they may drop it and move it to the Wii. It hasn't been in development for that long, has it? Basically, the PS3 will never catch Wii in Japan UNLESS it has a phenomenal 2008 in released Japanese oriented games. I don't see that happening as the DS and Wii are dominating Japan and any dev would be stupid to ignore that.
got that right!!



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jstam on 30 March 2007

jaspey said: Games like Eye of Judgment: Conquerors of 9 Fields, hotshots golf and monster hunter will be massive in Japan. Sony will be satisfied with Japan sales considering the software drought and the fact that xbox360 is totally dead. The wii is a different market.
The wii is not a different market in japan, nintendo IS the market in japan, pick any week in japan and look at total publisher sales, not a week goes by without nintendo dominating it...



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Hus on 30 March 2007

superchunk said: Basically, the PS3 will never catch Wii in Japan UNLESS it has a phenomenal 2008 in released Japanese oriented games. I don't see that happening as the DS and Wii are dominating Japan and any dev would be stupid to ignore that.
and is any dev stupid enouth to ignora the FACT that PSP has more 3rd party 1Million sellers then DS ? that 3rd party Wii games are struggling to out sell PS3 games ?



Hus on 30 March 2007

jstam said: Didn't the last two playstations sell better?
sorry no. not even 5 months after release, PS3 is hitting 3 million. neither predecessor did that so fast.



jstam on 30 March 2007

Your just plain out lying there hus aren't ya http://www.vgcharts.org/japtotals.php?name=&maker=&console=PSP Only 1 million seller http://www.vgcharts.org/japtotals.php?name=&maker=&console=DS 3 3rd party million sellers



jstam on 30 March 2007

Hus said: jstam said: Didn't the last two playstations sell better? sorry no. not even 5 months after release, PS3 is hitting 3 million. neither predecessor did that so fast.
We are still talking about japan aren't we? or are you just picking stats out of your arse?



superchunk on 30 March 2007

Hus said: and is any dev stupid enouth to ignora the FACT that PSP has more 3rd party 1Million sellers then DS ? that 3rd party Wii games are struggling to out sell PS3 games ?
It doesn't really matter, WHy? The DS has a much larger userbase that is growing exponentially quicker than the PSP. They have much better odds in the long run at selling more than enough copies. Same will happen with the Wii as it has happened with every other market leader in the history of games.