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Seraphic_Sixaxis on 28 January 2010

must always be online? .. huh?



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greenmedic88 on 28 January 2010
Mudface said:
greenmedic88 said:

Here's your big oversight: if you're that impoverished, why the hell are you spending your "discretionary time" on something as frivolous as gaming in the first place. More importantly, why are you spending your hard earned money on such frivolity? If it were such an issue, I would think eating better or maybe taking up a sporting activity for heath (since the impoverished generally don't have the time or money for gym memberships) or working more hours if work is available, would be a better option. 

One would think that the essentials of life would take priority, but... maybe that's just me and maybe all the game companies need to look out for those who really can't afford to game, either from a monetary, time (or both) perspective.

The way the world really works is this: if you can't afford to do or buy something, you don't do it or buy it. And that's the unvarnished truth. You want to do it on someone else's dime (ie credit), again, why would you be doing this on frivolous activities if you're hungry or cold, or both?

Any chance you could get off your high horse? What's it to you what people spend their money on, you sanctimonious arse.

Read the TOS brother. You're going to get yourself banned otherwise.

I could care less what people spend their money or other people's money on. You seem to think that gaming is pretty high on the list of priorities for those without the means. I say otherwise.



greenmedic88 on 28 January 2010
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
must always be online? .. huh?

Any MMO. Of course nobody blinks twice about that.

Technically Steam doesn't work 100% of the time when you don't have an active internet connection, but that hasn't stopped them from keeping PC gaming alive in many respects.

Of course it's a stupid idea that those who really don't want to pay to play will find ways to circumvent, but seriously; the backlash that happens every time some publisher tries to come up with a new (not so) clever way of protecting their IPs is almost always an overreaction.



Foamer on 28 January 2010

They're not trying to protect their IPs though, they're trying to kill the second hand market. I'm always amazed at the number of people who not only continually bend over and take the latest stupid, anti-consumer wheeze dreamed up by these companies, but actively defend them.



Lostplanet22 on 28 January 2010

I saw this news a few days ago and don't really understand the problems with it. How many don't have internet? It is that of a pain while most pc gamers are playing quite a lot of online games?



 

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daggy on 28 January 2010
greenmedic88 said:
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
must always be online? .. huh?

Any MMO. Of course nobody blinks twice about that.

Technically Steam doesn't work 100% of the time when you don't have an active internet connection, but that hasn't stopped them from keeping PC gaming alive in many respects.

Of course it's a stupid idea that those who really don't want to pay to play will find ways to circumvent, but seriously; the backlash that happens every time some publisher tries to come up with a new (not so) clever way of protecting their IPs is almost always an overreaction.

You seriously can't think of the difference between an MMO and Assassin's Creed 2?! MMOGs MUST always be online, or else it defeats the purpose of the technology itself.

Steam always allows you to play the game 100% of the time offline, unless the game or it's additional DRM doesn't allow it. Steam works amazing offline, and is the prime choice for gaming on laptops, which often are used during traveling.



Khuutra on 28 January 2010

What an ass-hatted way to interfere with legitimate customers and used game sales that will not affect piracy in any way whatsoever. Reprehensible!



haxxiy on 28 January 2010

Like if any of this would stop piracy. Remember Eidos apparently magical solution to Batman AA piracy. 5 days and it was gone.



 

 

 

 

 

Foamer on 28 January 2010
greenmedic88 said:

If you think people don't have access to the internet while travelling, you're living in the dark ages. I would hope that most people on vacation would be doing something other than playing the same games they could be playing at home, barring a gaming convention where internet connectivity would be about the last problem anyone would be having. Armed forces serving abroad get their internet service provided free of charge assuming you're not in some remote F.O.B. with limited communications where you would probably have more pressing concerns than playing video games. Service members duty stationed abroad at any permanent installation can subscribe to an ISP like anyone else stationed CONUS.

I guess people without any sort of internet connection are SOL. They can't play WoW either.

And if you think people have permanent, free access to the internet while travelling you're even more ignorant than you seem.

As for people on holiday, what's it to you what they choose to do? Many people only get the chance to game while they're on holiday in the first place.

Finally-

- The men and women of the United States Armed Services serving over seas very rarely have an internet connection available, I know several people who have been on active duty, and they all said the same thing, they'd have PC games sent to them to play on their laptops, but would have to wait to install them until they had an internet connection available. But why should we worry about inconveniencing them in the name of stopping piracy, right?

There were many, many complaints made by military personnel when Bioware first announced its rolling 10 day activations for Mass Effect- they were instrumental in having this removed, although sadly the 3/5 activation limits were kept.

BioWare has always listened very closely to its fans and we made this decision to ensure we are delivering the best possible experience to them. To all the fans including our many friends in the armed services and internationally who expressed concerns that they would not be able re-authenticate as often as required, EA and BioWare want you to know that your feedback is important to us.

Regardless, if this causes just one person to be denied access to their game, then that's one person more than the current way of doing things and one person too many.



jlauro on 28 January 2010
ChichiriMuyo said:
greenmedic88 said:
Second, while I can't speak for everyone, I can say that the number of times I game on a PC per week that isn't actively connected to the net is about... let me count on my fingers here, might need both hands. Wait, nope: zero times.

Seriously, who actually disconnects from the net before gaming? When you're at work and supposed to be I don't know, working?!

Good thing everyone gets free Internet, right?  Oh wait.  25% of AMERICANS don't have Internet access at all.  Imagine what it's like in a poorer country where it's also very likely that you pay for how long you are connected or how much data you transfer.  Yeah, that's right, for some people it's going to cost additional money just to play this game because that's the only sort of service even available to them.

Seriously, people from 1st world countries are painfull ignorant of how the world actually works.  Hell, in many/most 1st world countries people still pay for specific bandwith usage.  You think that's a justifiable additional cost to play a game you've already bought and paid for?  I don't.

Yeah, right...  It's available in most public libraries for free. There might be 25% that don't have it in their homes, but to suggest that anywhere near that many don't have access at all is crazy talk.  There might be that many that don't want it...

Now, let's just say you were talking home access...  maybe that is 25%...  but of that 25% how many have a PC that meets the requirements to play AC2???  Maybe 5% of that 25%?  and how many of that 5% would even want to play AC2?  Maybe 1% of that 5% of that 25%?  So we are down to 0.0125% that it's a problem for.