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Actually the more reasonable argument for piracy in developing countries is that its just extremely normal to them. Shops openly sell pirated games in many of them, its actually quite difficult to get your hands on legitimate copies of things.



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This might actually make me get the pirated version that imitates the ubisoft server... Or I won't get the game at all...



I am a Gamer... I play games and not consoles. I have a PC and Console on which I game... I like games. End of Story!

FFS. How many times does this have to be said-

DRM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COMBATING PIRACY

It doesn't work and never has done. It's there to control what you do with the media you've bought- in this case to ensure that you can't resell it.



Next thing you know, they'll try something like setting up shops where people go to insert coins to play and eventually wiped out home gaming.



This actually just makes it preferable to buy and play through digital distro services like Steam.

PC gaming is already easier this way as is.



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Second, while I can't speak for everyone, I can say that the number of times I game on a PC per week that isn't actively connected to the net is about... let me count on my fingers here, might need both hands. Wait, nope: zero times.

Seriously, who actually disconnects from the net before gaming? When you're at work and supposed to be I don't know, working?!



Miguel_Zorro said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Zen - Wow has been pirated many, many times. Clone servers have been put up, allowing people to play their pirated copies 100% for free. You have to be incredibly naive to think the devs/publishers have a shot in hell at stoping piracy.

Miguel - I'll spare the attitude if you stop being lazy. All the information in the world at your finger tips and you want people to post sources on wide-spread information? Come on, dude.


It's not my job to back up your baseless claims for you.  Do it yourself.  I suppose next you'd like me to conduct an exhaustive google search for you to prove that most piracy is conducted by starving orphans in Uganda?

I didn't make any claims, yet I still provide THREE pieces of evidence that say you're just plain wrong.

Also, exhastive?  It took me two minutes tops to find evidence of four or more studies that contradict your claims.

But hell, who needs exhaustive - http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_sof_pir_rat-crime-software-piracy-rate

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2009/05/study-finds-software-piracy-statistics-growing.html

41% of all software worldwide is pirated, only 20% of software in the US is pirated.  Other rich countries are right down there at the bottom of the heap, too, generally dragging that worldwide number down to 40%.  So either A) the third world is pirating mountains of software or B) the the third world is pirating larger mountains of software.  You take your pick.

Oh, and piracy rates are only 69% in Uganda, not that huge of an offender at all.



You do not have the right to never be offended.

greenmedic88 said:
Second, while I can't speak for everyone, I can say that the number of times I game on a PC per week that isn't actively connected to the net is about... let me count on my fingers here, might need both hands. Wait, nope: zero times.

Seriously, who actually disconnects from the net before gaming? When you're at work and supposed to be I don't know, working?!

Good thing everyone gets free Internet, right?  Oh wait.  25% of AMERICANS don't have Internet access at all.  Imagine what it's like in a poorer country where it's also very likely that you pay for how long you are connected or how much data you transfer.  Yeah, that's right, for some people it's going to cost additional money just to play this game because that's the only sort of service even available to them.

Seriously, people from 1st world countries are painfull ignorant of how the world actually works.  Hell, in many/most 1st world countries people still pay for specific bandwith usage.  You think that's a justifiable additional cost to play a game you've already bought and paid for?  I don't.



You do not have the right to never be offended.

I don't know about you, but I get my internet free for $29.98 per month.



ChichiriMuyo said:
greenmedic88 said:
Second, while I can't speak for everyone, I can say that the number of times I game on a PC per week that isn't actively connected to the net is about... let me count on my fingers here, might need both hands. Wait, nope: zero times.

Seriously, who actually disconnects from the net before gaming? When you're at work and supposed to be I don't know, working?!

Good thing everyone gets free Internet, right?  Oh wait.  25% of AMERICANS don't have Internet access at all.  Imagine what it's like in a poorer country where it's also very likely that you pay for how long you are connected or how much data you transfer.  Yeah, that's right, for some people it's going to cost additional money just to play this game because that's the only sort of service even available to them.

Seriously, people from 1st world countries are painfull ignorant of how the world actually works.  Hell, in many/most 1st world countries people still pay for specific bandwith usage.  You think that's a justifiable additional cost to play a game you've already bought and paid for?  I don't.

Here's your big oversight: if you're that impoverished, why the hell are you spending your "discretionary time" on something as frivolous as gaming in the first place. More importantly, why are you spending your hard earned money on such frivolity? If it were such an issue, I would think eating better or maybe taking up a sporting activity for heath (since the impoverished generally don't have the time or money for gym memberships) or working more hours if work is available, would be a better option. 

One would think that the essentials of life would take priority, but... maybe that's just me and maybe all the game companies need to look out for those who really can't afford to game, either from a monetary, time (or both) perspective.

The way the world really works is this: if you can't afford to do or buy something, you don't do it or buy it. And that's the unvarnished truth. You want to do it on someone else's dime (ie credit), again, why would you be doing this on frivolous activities if you're hungry or cold, or both?