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Forums - Sales Discussion - Xbox360 lead over PS3 is not what it seems :O

VG Chartz has the xbox360 at 35.8 million while the  ps3 is at 30.1 million. This returns an xbox360 lead of 5.7million units worldwide.

but what we fail to realize is that  30% of xbox360's sold before the falcon  model was realsed are already dead.

 

Falcon released around Aug 2007. So, taking total sales of xbox360  from launch till before falcon's lunch we have 10.6million

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 20th Nov 2005 to 04th Aug 2007:

 

Console X360
Total
10,605,876

of this  10.6 million units, 30% has fallen to rrod, which is roughly 3.18million units.

 

so that brings it to 7.42 million.

 

from here, units sold  have a failure rate of 5% (if we are to believe that the falcon did address the rrod issue, which we know didn't, but lets assume it did). Sales from falcon's launch to pressent is at 25.2 million. lets say 5% did fail so thats 1.26million failed units which brings the active unis to 23.9 million

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 05th Aug 2007 to 19th Dec 2009:

 

Console X360
Total
25,189,629

so adding 7.42 million and 23.9 million, total actuall xbox360s world wide that are alive is 31.3 million

 

to be fair, lets also assume that 5% of all ps3 hardware has failed (which we know is lower than 5% but for equality's sake lets take it at 5%), which is 1.5 million dead ps3s. which brings down total live ps3s to 28.6 million

 

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 18th Jul 1993 to 19th Dec 2009:

 

Console PS3
Total
30,097,783

 

so now we have

xbox360 - 31.3 million

ps3 - 28.6 million

difference - 2.73 million

 

So with this, i predict that  ps3 will pass  xbox360 when GT5 launches in Europe

 

 

 

 



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ps3 failure rate is .1 to .5% rufly, not 5% so there are way more living ps3s :P



Gearbox said:
ps3 failure rate is .1 to .5% rufly, not 5% so there are way more living ps3s :P

The PS3 failure rate is between 5% and 10%...I think.



intresting....but makes no diffrence really, me and other wont be like WOOO untill it shows PS3 overtook 360 on that main page lol



A sold console is a sold console.

Doesn't matter if someone has to buy it because it broke, or because they want a console for the bedroom and lounge.

360's amazing attach rate goes against everything you said.



 

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My original 360 still works, my orginal PS3 failed due to bad blu-ray drive. Unless we want to start revising PS2 sales and the likes then it doesn't matter how many units are no longer in use. A sale is a sale.



If it was true that would have been in X360's favor, because then the difference between AR on X360 and PS3 would be even bigger and that would prove that people buy PS3 to watch BD and not to play games.

So, we all know what you wanted to do here but it was a misarable failure



Your math is incomplete, and so flawed as to be useless. Supposing we could trust the 30% number (and it varied a lot in reports) we don't know how many were actually replaced. Many were likely repaired under the 3 year warranty. Until you can account for customers who did not buy a new console after their old one died but went with the FREE repair the whole exercise is meaningless.



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@Seece
i dont recall mentioning anything about software sales and attach ratio hence your point is moot

@Ivader
which is why i also took into account a 5% failure rate for the ps3

@donsterydo2
getting the likes of you to care enough to defend the x360 makes it a success :P