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nightsurge said:

Based on NPD, November 360 sales in JUST the US alone (not full Americas) was 14k higher than the VGChartz estimate.  Very close estimation, ioi, I applaud you.   What this does show, however, is that some adjustments of maybe ~25k+ should be made to the 360 number and likewise a decent chunk removed from the PS3 number.  Xbox 360 still wins November over the PS3 even with Black Friday sales?!

Also, MW2 was a beast and 360 version sold 3x PS3 version in the US (not unexpected).

November 2009 Hardware Sales

  • Nintendo DS -- 1,700,000
  • Wii -- 1,260,000
  • Xbox 360 -- 819,500
  • PlayStation 3 -- 710,400
  • PlayStation Portable -- 293,900
  • PlayStation 2 -- 203,100

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 01st Nov 2009 to 28th Nov 2009:

Console PS3 X360
America
840,249
805,161

Is that really from 1st Nov? I thought the chart started at Oct 31..



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Yep. That's pulled exactly from the start date of Nov 1, to end date of Nov 28.



You know..it's sooooooo funny...but I don't remember you making this thread last month when the PS3 was undertracked and the 360 overtracked.

Hmph, guess you must have missed it. Oh well.




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Gobias said:

You know..it's sooooooo funny...but I don't remember you making this thread last month when the PS3 was undertracked and the 360 overtracked.

Hmph, guess you must have missed it. Oh well.


Yup, you're right.  I did completely miss last months NPD.  Had I seen it I would have jumped on the thread ASAP.



nightsurge said:
Gobias said:

You know..it's sooooooo funny...but I don't remember you making this thread last month when the PS3 was undertracked and the 360 overtracked.

Hmph, guess you must have missed it. Oh well.


Yup, you're right.  I did completely miss last months NPD.  Had I seen it I would have jumped on the thread ASAP.

Definitely. I can see you are 100% unbiased from your posting history.



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Gobias said:
nightsurge said:
Gobias said:

You know..it's sooooooo funny...but I don't remember you making this thread last month when the PS3 was undertracked and the 360 overtracked.

Hmph, guess you must have missed it. Oh well.


Yup, you're right.  I did completely miss last months NPD.  Had I seen it I would have jumped on the thread ASAP.

Definitely. I can see you are 100% unbiased from your posting history.

just stop it. You can't expect one member to make both threads when everyone else is shooting to make the exact same thread. You have enough negative money as it is, don't push it.



Thanks prof and CGI

I just looked up October NPD and you are right. PS3 US NPD was 320k, VGC Americas PS3 was only about 370k and 360 US NPD was 250k while VGC Americas 360 was 320k. So I guess that month 360 may have been spot on or a little overtracked and the PS3 understacked a bit?



I think this again shows that NPD has done a great job of convincing everyone of its "invulnerability" when it fact it is an estimation service -- just like VGC.

Admittedly, NPD has a large base of data. But it also does not receive Wal-Mart and ToysRUs information. That alone could cause errors, depending upon how the model accounts for this missing information. For example, if you use last generation, Sony could be overestimated. If you use sales of other stores, Nintendo could be underestimated (check out the Wii display vs. the others at Toys R Us).

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theprof00 said:
Gobias said:
nightsurge said:
Gobias said:

You know..it's sooooooo funny...but I don't remember you making this thread last month when the PS3 was undertracked and the 360 overtracked.

Hmph, guess you must have missed it. Oh well.


Yup, you're right.  I did completely miss last months NPD.  Had I seen it I would have jumped on the thread ASAP.

Definitely. I can see you are 100% unbiased from your posting history.

just stop it. You can't expect one member to make both threads when everyone else is shooting to make the exact same thread. You have enough negative money as it is, don't push it.

I think you would make a pretty good mod, prof. You seem to be alert for foolishness and clamp down with the quickness when you recognize it.



Gobias said:
nightsurge said:
Gobias said:

You know..it's sooooooo funny...but I don't remember you making this thread last month when the PS3 was undertracked and the 360 overtracked.

Hmph, guess you must have missed it. Oh well.


Yup, you're right.  I did completely miss last months NPD.  Had I seen it I would have jumped on the thread ASAP.

Definitely. I can see you are 100% unbiased from your posting history.

 

Seriously. Personal preference does not = blind bias. In fact, he once owned a PS3 as well, so he has every right for an opinion. When he debates, he's a pretty reasonable guy, and uses common sense, even if I don't agree with everything he says.



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