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"Top" Software Titles for the Big Three 

 Numbers are not the objectives, genres, publishers, exclusives and sales importance are.

Playstation 3:

 NameSoftware Sales
Genre
Publisher
Exclusive? 
 Resistance: Fall of Man 
 1.73 million Shooter Sony
 Yes
 Motorstorm 1.31 million
 Racer Sony
 Yes
 Need For Speed: Carbon
 0.57 million
 Racer
 EA No
 Call of Duty 3
 0.50 million
 Shooter Activision No
 Madden NFL '08
 0.49 million
 Sports EA No
 Night Fight Round 3
 0.45 million
 Sports EA No
 Madden NFL '07
 0.44 million
 Sports EA No
 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
 0.43 million
 Action RPG
 Take2 No
 Dynasty Warriors Gundam
 0.35 million  Action Namco No
 Everybody's Golf 5
 0.35 million
 Sports Sony Yes

 Ridge Racer 7 

 0.28 million
 Sports Namco No




















XBox360:

Name                                 
Software Sales   
 Genre        
Publisher  
 Exclusive?
 Halo 3
 5.14 million
 Shooter Microsoft Yes
 Gears of War
 4.81 million
 Shooter Microsoft Yes
 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
 2.17 million
 Action RPG
 2k Games
 No
 Call of Duty 2
 1.99 million
 Shooter Activision No
 Ghost Recon Advanced Warr. 1.98 million
 Shooter Ubisoft No
 Rainbow Six: Vegas
 1.97 million
 Shooter Ubisoft No
 Call of Duty 3
 1.84 million
 Shooter Spike No
 Madden NFL '07
 1.73 million
 Sports EA No
 Guitar Hero 2
 1.65 million
 Other Activision No
 Final Night Round 3
 1.53 million
 Sports EA No
 Saints Row
 1.48 million
 Action Racer
 THQ Yes

















Wii:

Name                                  
Software Sales   Genre         
Publisher  
 Exclusive?
 Wii Sports
 10.86 million
 Sports Nintendo Yes
 Wii Play
 6.33 million
 Sports/Other Nintendo Yes
 Zelda: Twilight Princess
 3.79 million
 Action RPG
 Nintendo Yes
 Mario Party 8
 2.53 million
 Other Nintendo Yes
 Wario Ware Smooth Moves
 1.89 million
 Other Nintendo Yes
 Super Paper Mario
 1.57 million
 Action Nintendo Yes
 Rayman Raving Rabbids
 1.03 million
 Action/Other Ubisoft No*
 Red Steel
 1.02 million
 Shooter Ubisoft Yes
 Mario Strikers Charged
 0.91 million
 Sports Nintendo Yes
 Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
 0.83 million
 Other Nintendo Yes
 Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
 0.82 million
 Shooter/Puzz
 Capcom Yes/No*
 Tiger Woods PGA Tour '07
 0.72 million
 Sports EA No*
 Sonic and the Secret Rings
 0.72 million
 Platformer Sega
 Yes
 Pokemon Battle Revolution
 0.60 million
 RPG Nintendo Yes
 Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
 0.52 million
 Shooter/Puzz Nintendo Yes
 Excite Truck
 0.51 million
 Racer Nintendo Yes
 Trauma Center: Second Opin
 0.48 million
 Puzzle Atlus Yes
 Dragon Quest Swords
 0.48 million
 RPG Square Enix Yes
 Cooking Mama: Cook off
 0.46 million
 Other Taito Yes
 Madden NFL '07
 0.41 million
 Sports EA No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 * - denotes a semi-exclusive or not verdict.  In Tiger Woods, the control scheme is hands down a huge difference, along with RE4 and Rayman. 

Ok, interesting points:

 1.)  Top two games for every console are exclusive, in-house published games by their respective companies.

 2.)  Madden NFL '07 sold better on Wii than PS3

 3.)  XBox360 is dominated by shooter-style games as top-sellers.  PS3 is dominated by Sports/Racing games.   Wii is dominated by....   no domination, actually.  The lines are NOT clear cut.

 4.)  Ubisoft, as a 3rd party, has a definitive presence on Wii and XBox360, but not PS3.

 5.)  EA dominates PS3 - presense still on all other consoles. 

 6.)  Call of Duty 3:  Japan = .03 million XBox360 sales, ....  actually, what i wanted to do was compare individual console sales and software sales of this single title, compared regionally, and to compare sales between360/Wii in the US, and PS3/Wii in Japan, which would have led to #7.

 7.)  Call of Duty 3:  Estimating 10% to 20% Wii60 owners compared to probable Wii3 owners in Japan, and comparing Call of Duty 3 sales to non-dual owners.  I wanted to attempt a possible measurement of how many consumers really bought the shooter for PS3/360 instead of Wii, yet still play Wii for other games, INCLUDING exclusive shooters, like Red Steel, Metroid, RE4, etc, and by region.

 

I guess I will wander away feeling defeated now.  I was hoping for another 'hardcore' comparison by evaluating actual sales as opposed to opinions.  The genres, to me, were interesting, though.

Extra.)  Goldeneye Sales = 8.09 million.  Halo 2 sales = 8.31 million.  Pretty close!!  Except, I'm not sure if VGCHartz has data on Japan or not.  Japan had 5.55 million N64 sales, which could boost that 8.09 million up a ways.

 8.)  I would suggest that 3rd parties NEED 360 and PS3 to exist on their home turfs.  In order for cross-platforms to sell, despite the development costs to punt on both platforms, publishers aimed at the Japanese market needs PS3, as well as American aims relish in XBox 360.  And they NEED Wii to help bring back older gamers who may have, wandered away out of.... boredom?  Repetition?  And they NEED Wii to make sure younger gamers that have parents who are protective trust Nintendo with, ahem, more 'childish games' (I disagree with that belief).  If they are playing games again, and now have money of their own, they may wander back to this thing called 'graphics' with the 360 and PS3.



Numbers: Checker Players > Halo Players

Checkers Age and replayability > Halo Age and replayability

Therefore, Checkers > Halo

So, Checkers is a better game than Halo.

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i would bet that the number of people who bought Zelda: Twilight Princess is the exact number of nintendo fans that own a wii..

interesting though.. i cant seem to find the numbers for that in the charts...

its also an interesting point that although the wii has double the userbase of the ps3.. it doesnt sell many more copies of shooters... red steel or metroid, compared to resistance and cod3.. leading me to believe that the wii userbase is a more casual or young crowd or people.. or old lol.

its also blatently obvious that the 360 is targeted at the us.. sooo many shooters. they probably all sell to the same people too.

although i'll say that this comparison is completely pointless.. were comparing a 2 year old console to two 1 year old consoles.. one of which is more expensive and the other is less expensive... each console has its obvious strengths and weaknesses.



Another perspective...


Xbox360 top 2 spots taken by 1st party games:

Halo 3
Gears of War

top 3rd party game :

Elder Scrolls IV : Oblivion -> 2.17m


PS3 top 2 spots taken by 1st party games:

Resistance : Fall of Man
Motorstorm

top 3rd party game :

Need for Speed Carbon : 0,57m


Wii top 6 spots taken by 1st party games:

Wii Sports
Wii Play
Zelda: Twilight Princess
Mario Party 8
Wario Ware Smooth Moves

top 3rd party game :

Rayman Raving Rabbids: 1.03m

 

Hmmm...

BTW welcome to the forum, guys.



We're about to get one more top Nintendo 1st party game...



My End of 2008 Hardware Predictions (console only):

Wii : 50 million

360: 28 million

PS3: 24 million

These predictions were made on January 3rd and won't be revised

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Woah, Need for Speed Carbon is the best selling 3rd part PS3 game? At just THAT? There goes the "Wii is bad for 3rd parties" argument...



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You can say that again...



splatman1981 said:
i would bet that the number of people who bought Zelda: Twilight Princess is the exact number of nintendo fans that own a wii..

interesting though.. i cant seem to find the numbers for that in the charts...

its also an interesting point that although the wii has double the userbase of the ps3.. it doesnt sell many more copies of shooters... red steel or metroid, compared to resistance and cod3.. leading me to believe that the wii userbase is a more casual or young crowd or people.. or old lol.

its also blatently obvious that the 360 is targeted at the us.. sooo many shooters. they probably all sell to the same people too.

although i'll say that this comparison is completely pointless.. were comparing a 2 year old console to two 1 year old consoles.. one of which is more expensive and the other is less expensive... each console has its obvious strengths and weaknesses.

 First disclaimer was not about sales numbers, but rankings, genres, publishers, and exclusives to each respective console.  Point is moot.  Besides,  does this mean this forum should not compare the 360 to Wii/PS3, just because they're a year apart?  I think not.

 I was attempting to use Call of Duty 3 as a test piglett on trying to see how well PS3 CoD3 sales were in Japan compared to the XBox360 in the US, and then possibly how many of those buyers already have a Wii - If there's any correlation that CoD3 buyers own a Wii, and those that own a Wii bought another shooter, you could assume that the reason Wii shooters may not sell as high with multi-platform versions is strictly that they own two consoles.  Obviously CoD3 is probably better on the greater-definition consoles.

By the way, I just enjoyed the new software database listings, being able to list software under 1 million worked out great. 

 

"its also an interesting point that although the wii has double the userbase of the ps3.. it doesnt sell many more copies of shooters... red steel or metroid, compared to resistance and cod3.. leading me to believe that the wii userbase is a more casual or young crowd or people.. or old lol."

 

Going for top 3 shooters 

Total Wii Sales:  12.49 million / (1.02 million Red Steel + RE4 0.82 million + 0.52 million MP3) = 1 shooter game per every 5.29 consoles

Total XBox360 sales:  11.88 million / (5.14 million Halo3 + 4.81 millionGears of War + 1.99 million Call of Duty 2) = 1.01 shooter games per every console

 Wii = 18.9%

 360 = 100.5%

 However, you basically buy a 360 for Halo3...  so the numbers are to be expected that way.  But if you consider the 2.36 million shooter software sales from the top 3 Wii titles (excluding Zelda as I did Oblivion, they're not quite the same in my book), 11.94 million / 2.36 million = 20% ratio.

I'm taking a guess, but I'd say that 20% of 360 owners also own a Wii.  All of the 3 shooters I included for Wii do not sell in Japan worth any notable tipping of the scales.  360 sales do not go well in Japan either, so the numbers go well to compare non-Japan figures.  I say, 20% of 360 owners also own a Wii.  That would mean there would be 2.376 million Wii60's.

You all know these are fabricated numbers based on speculative ideas and have no real factual evidence other than how you spin the numbers.  Kinda like predicting snow storms.



Numbers: Checker Players > Halo Players

Checkers Age and replayability > Halo Age and replayability

Therefore, Checkers > Halo

So, Checkers is a better game than Halo.