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i own ps3, wii and the 360,


Sure I respect them and I don't see how any true gamer doesn't. Even supporters for PS3 should thank them to some degree. Without live and many of its features, Sony probably wouldn't have been so fast to try and make PSN better. Both companies feed off of each others ideas to some degree.

Same respect goes to Sony and Nintendo, both companies have only added to the gaming industry and that is a wonderful thing for gamers!


what you said was 100 percent true, gears of war was a amazing game i loved it, i also loved halo 3, that was the first 360 game i bought, i haven't played no 1 or 2 yet lol, nut yee Microsoft does have my respect BUT NO WHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS SONY LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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MikeB said:

So far not really, they abused their monopoly against small innovative companies like Be Inc. In the past operating systems would get more and more efficient and were a lot more open, this wasn't the case with Windows, it just got slower and slower, rendering Vista Ready PCs into email terminals was a low point.

MSDOS, the OS that really started their success due to IBM mistakes was just horrible and was a limited rip off from CP/M even down to the source code.

The original XBox I didn't like at all, the 360 is better due to R&D on the Cell's PPE from 3rd parties and a good job by Nvidea on the GPU at the time, mass 360 failures and denials up to the point of legal action against them didn't earn them respect. And their gains on the 360 seems at a large part due to them neglecting PC gaming, many of their games (ironically often based on cross platform technology) aren't available for Windows or are heavily delayed.

Their introduction of new technology often goes hand in hand with porting issues for other platforms, which hinders consumer choice.

But if Windows 7 is really far more efficient and becomes well supported games wise they will finally earn some respect, I want this industry to push forward and Microsoft for a company its size and influence IMO so far severely hindered technical progress. In the 80s it was hard to imagine computer technology would advance this slowly.

Why am I not suprised. A monoply MS is not, they are however, a large company that is making smart business decisions to stay above the competition (who quite frankly are all guilty of shady business practices.)

Form a business standpoint, I have great respect for MS.

From a personal aspect, I guess I do.They make good products for the most part

I do have a great deal of respect for Bill Gates. If only more business men were like him, the world would be a better place.



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Don't forget your helmet there, Master Chief!

I don't respect corporations.  If I like them I will buy their products, if I don't like them then I will just mostly ignore them..



Microsoft - Yes

The Xbox Brand - No


While the 360 improved by leaps and bounds over the original Xbox in terms of games, 3rd party support, online capability, graphics, install base (for added community)...I still feel like the hardware failures made the 360 somewhat of a letdown for me. I used to have a 360 and after it broke for the 3rd time (2nd due to RRoD) I decided to come crawling back to Sony. I think if the Next Xbox is as good as the 360 (with the standard power/graphical improvements) and without the hardware failures...then they'll have earned my respect.

Since the title just says microsoft though then yeah they have my respect. I've been using MS operating systems since Windows 98 on my computer and I plan on upgrading to Windows 7 some day.



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absolutely not. with the exception of xbox live and halo, what has microsoft really brought to console gaming that the ps2 didn't already do? they have so much money that they can put themeselves in the position to look like its the system to buy. really i just think that microsoft really wants the biggest peice of the pie and thats it. people can say that sony and nintendo are doing the same thing but both of those companies bring new and fresh content every time they release a system. i don't really like the direction that nintendo went with their system but i'll always respect them. i can't stand the fact that 360 is so popular in NA. the majority of games that are out now are generic or have been done a million times over. sports shooters and casual games are a dime a dozen now. i was so content when the ps2 was king. the system had something for everyone and a lot of it. which is why i chose to get a ps3. sony never fails to give me something different. a lot of people haven't liked some of their games because they are different but if you actually play them, you'll see that its a new experience. some games like folklore, aren't for everyone but at least its something different. i was shocked that heavenly sword didn't sell all that well. back to my point, my biggest fear about microsoft and their moneyis that i think gaming is going to get very dull if the trend continues. i feel like microsoft saw how well the ps2 did and has tried to emulate everything that has already been done. i really hope they prove me wrong but i don't think that will be the case.



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kingpin785 said:

absolutely not. with the exception of xbox live and halo, what has microsoft really brought to console gaming that the ps2 didn't already do? they have so much money that they can put themeselves in the position to look like its the system to buy. really i just think that microsoft really wants the biggest peice of the pie and thats it. people can say that sony and nintendo are doing the same thing but both of those companies bring new and fresh content every time they release a system. i don't really like the direction that nintendo went with their system but i'll always respect them. i can't stand the fact that 360 is so popular in NA. the majority of games that are out now are generic or have been done a million times over. sports shooters and casual games are a dime a dozen now. i was so content when the ps2 was king. the system had something for everyone and a lot of it. which is why i chose to get a ps3. sony never fails to give me something different. a lot of people haven't liked some of their games because they are different but if you actually play them, you'll see that its a new experience. some games like folklore, aren't for everyone but at least its something different. i was shocked that heavenly sword didn't sell all that well. back to my point, my biggest fear about microsoft and their moneyis that i think gaming is going to get very dull if the trend continues. i feel like microsoft saw how well the ps2 did and has tried to emulate everything that has already been done. i really hope they prove me wrong but i don't think that will be the case.

Seriously, your first post? I give you a week.

On second though, you might just fit in with a large population of VGchartz.



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Don't forget your helmet there, Master Chief!

nope



ironman said:
MikeB said:

So far not really, they abused their monopoly against small innovative companies like Be Inc. In the past operating systems would get more and more efficient and were a lot more open, this wasn't the case with Windows, it just got slower and slower, rendering Vista Ready PCs into email terminals was a low point.

MSDOS, the OS that really started their success due to IBM mistakes was just horrible and was a limited rip off from CP/M even down to the source code.

The original XBox I didn't like at all, the 360 is better due to R&D on the Cell's PPE from 3rd parties and a good job by Nvidea on the GPU at the time, mass 360 failures and denials up to the point of legal action against them didn't earn them respect. And their gains on the 360 seems at a large part due to them neglecting PC gaming, many of their games (ironically often based on cross platform technology) aren't available for Windows or are heavily delayed.

Their introduction of new technology often goes hand in hand with porting issues for other platforms, which hinders consumer choice.

But if Windows 7 is really far more efficient and becomes well supported games wise they will finally earn some respect, I want this industry to push forward and Microsoft for a company its size and influence IMO so far severely hindered technical progress. In the 80s it was hard to imagine computer technology would advance this slowly.

Why am I not suprised. A monoply MS is not, they are however, a large company that is making smart business decisions to stay above the competition (who quite frankly are all guilty of shady business practices.)

Form a business standpoint, I have great respect for MS.

From a personal aspect, I guess I do.They make good products for the most part

I do have a great deal of respect for Bill Gates. If only more business men were like him, the world would be a better place.

Many if not most of their business decisions which made them big were illegal and anti-competitive. It's not entirely the offender's fault, but mostly also the US government which should have upheld the law much more strictly. Of course Microsoft funded various governments to a large extend, which would in many countries be illegal due conflicts of interest. But I think if Microsoft was an Iranian company the US would have boycotted them and maybe even find an excuse to bomb the facility...

As for Bill Gates, I don't think he eats one steak less for upping his profile by PR investments. He made a good decision to buy the rip off Quick and Dirty OS from a programmer in the beginning for 25 thousand dollars, but IMO mostly it was a lack of insight from IBM managers which caused their breakthrough success and market position. Regarding technology Bill Gates has a long list of failed predictions and incorrect statements, so from a technical visionary standpoint he's not impressive despite all the advisors he must be able to afford.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

I always respect Microsoft. But the quality of x360 is a bit annoying (RROD)



No company having a monopoly should have any form of respect.

This is just completely wrong.