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When do you think that HD will become a standard? P.S. What is " true HD" ?

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480p waning in '09. 2012 HD = mainstream or about to and officially MS by 2013 where the Wii 2'll be released w/ the PS4/Xbox 720.

@Hus

Uh...no. Currently 25% of the peoole in the US have HDTVs, 50% know it has HD, 50% don't. Meaning 20,800,000 out of...uh...let's say around the US' 520 mil people. 10,400,000 don't know it has HD. Every year there is a 7% increase in HDTV purchases in the US. Let's say 51%+ of the people in the US (around 260,000,000+ people) have HDTVs, and let's call that 'mainstream.' By '07's end 32% of the US people will have HDTVs. For 51% it will take...3 years for it to be 'mainstream' meaning end of 2010 ('10) and in 2011 ('11). By that time the new consoles will soon be done and the 49% will continue to buy Wiis and whatever. By 2012-13 HD will be more mainstream. %s might be lower though considering a lot more people move to the US.




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Soriku said:
480p waning in '09. 2012 HD = mainstream or about to and officially MS by 2013 where the Wii 2'll be released w/ the PS4/Xbox 720.

@Hus

Uh...no. Currently 25% of the peoole in the US have HDTVs, 50% know it has HD, 50% don't. Meaning 20,800,000 out of...uh...let's say around the US' 520 mil people. 10,400,000 don't know it has HD. Every year there is a 7% increase in HDTV purchases in the US. Let's say 51%+ of the people in the US (around 260,000,000+ people) have HDTVs, and let's call that 'mainstream.' By '07's end 32% of the US people will have HDTVs. For 51% it will take...3 years for it to be 'mainstream' meaning end of 2010 ('10) and in 2011 ('11). By that time the new consoles will soon be done and the 49% will continue to buy Wiis and whatever. By 2012-13 HD will be more mainstream. %s might be lower though considering a lot more people move to the US.


 Sure they dont know.  Like in my house if they called my mom and asked is my TV HD she sure as hell would not know, but i would.  I doubt people that ignorant or just dense that they buy a something for a grand and they dont know WTF it does ? its really hard to buy a hd tv with out the sales guy giving you the hd ohh so blehh blehh ales pitch.  

As much as you all want to avoid hd you cant, its coming fast.  I dont know any self respecting sports fan that does not watch their mlb/nfl nhl whatever games in Hd. 



Hus said:
Soriku said:
480p waning in '09. 2012 HD = mainstream or about to and officially MS by 2013 where the Wii 2'll be released w/ the PS4/Xbox 720.

@Hus

Uh...no. Currently 25% of the peoole in the US have HDTVs, 50% know it has HD, 50% don't. Meaning 20,800,000 out of...uh...let's say around the US' 520 mil people. 10,400,000 don't know it has HD. Every year there is a 7% increase in HDTV purchases in the US. Let's say 51%+ of the people in the US (around 260,000,000+ people) have HDTVs, and let's call that 'mainstream.' By '07's end 32% of the US people will have HDTVs. For 51% it will take...3 years for it to be 'mainstream' meaning end of 2010 ('10) and in 2011 ('11). By that time the new consoles will soon be done and the 49% will continue to buy Wiis and whatever. By 2012-13 HD will be more mainstream. %s might be lower though considering a lot more people move to the US.


 Sure they dont know.  Like in my house if they called my mom and asked is my TV HD she sure as hell would not know, but i would.  I doubt people that ignorant or just dense that they buy a something for a grand and they dont know WTF it does ? its really hard to buy a hd tv with out the sales guy giving you the hd ohh so blehh blehh ales pitch.  

As much as you all want to avoid hd you cant, its coming fast.  I dont know any self respecting sports fan that does not watch their mlb/nfl nhl whatever games in Hd. 


It's happening as we speak.


there are currently just over 300 million people in the united states.

 



^ Isn't it 500 mil?




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Sugu yoko de waratteita

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PeoplesChamp said:
Hus said:
Something like 50 million hdtv in us by end of 08, more and more hd programs are available.

1080p tvs the standard by 09


I seriously doubt 480p will be standard by 09. 1080p probably in 2011

 480i and 576i are standard definition.

 480p and 576p are enhanced definition.

720p, 1080p, and (ugh)1080i are high definition.

(except in Australia, where 576p is also considered high definition) 

 Enhanced definition will never be mainstream because it was too little of an improvement and has been eclipsed by better technology.

 1080i was not originally part of the specification, but certain tube based television manufacturers found it too difficult to put more than 540 scan lines on their televisions and came up with 1080i so that they could do high def too. Unfortunately, the standard was altered to include it. 

 



PeoplesChamp said:
I said 120hz for living room

Because I plan on keeping it for 6-10yrs, i'd get just about every feature possible, .....and besides 70" tv's are heavy and difficult to transport.

if thats not enough ...techno geeks read this

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/120hz/


if your lazy ... it explains 120hz is basically for smoother frame rate


This article is actually very good, as no, it doesn't say that 120 Hz gives smoother frame rate (whatever that means) but that it is specifically made to counter some of the numerous defects of LCD displays. Unfortunately, it introduces others, like completely unnatural movements. These articles are good so that people at least understand that LCD are the worst technologies of all amongst TV. But hey, they're flat and cheaper (NOT! RPTV are actually cheaper).

 

Back on topic, I don't expect HD to become standard before at least 5 years. I would say in 10 years (so in 8 years from now). But any amateur in the field knows that already, and that's why I know pretty well that people saying the Wii is doomed because of HD are delusional. And I'm talking the currently HD signals here, which means 1080p max.

Someone already explained that TruHD is a sound format, among the mess that is HDTV norms.

 

And Wojtas, I don't think you understood your brother. There are norms already for HD broadcasts and it says 720p or 1080p. Thoe that broadcast 1080i are not in the norm. 1080i is too poor and harder to compress, so 720p should be used instead of 1080i, as it allows for more quality for the same bandwidth. 1080i is only for TV shows or documentaries on HD media.

There is no super HD resolution foreseen for the home. People that talk about higher than 1080p resolutions for the home:

- don't understand the purpose of HD

- don't understand why these specific formats where chosen

-  probably believe the THX sound they have at home is the same norm that the THX in theaters

To sum up, they're clueless or delusional. Or are drowned in piss contests.

 

Finally, instead of cluelessly asking for "even better signals", we should rather ask for broadcasters to display 1080p signals instead of 1080i, because we're not even here yet. 



@dtewi

Well, you get my messsge. Switch a few numbers around, though...




ookaze said:

-  probably believe the THX sound they have at home is the same norm that the THX in theaters


 Not to derail onto an audio tangent, but people generally don't have THX sound at home. They have THX certified equipment. However, to have an actual THX sound system, it has to be configured along specific guidelines and tested for audio quality across the room being wired. Theatres do this to get THX certification on specific theatres for the marketing value (and maybe to entice audiophiles in some locations). 

 I doubt many home theatres have been configured properly or tested for certification. 

 THX is a certification for specific configurations of the environment and thresholds of performance of audio equipment. (sort of like the government security certifications for operating systems. They dont certify the os, they certify the os running on a specific configuration of hardware.)

All that being said, i've heard they are getting to the point where they'll slap the THX logo on just about anything for enough money, so even THX certified sound setups might not be configured properly anymore.