Really, I think 170€ is too much for a handheld. It's still primarily a toy, used mostly by kids. So parents are supposed to spend 210€ to get their kids a portable game? It's recession, I might add. Considering the original GameBoy was 170DM = 85€... including a game. 

When my girlfriend bought her DSlite, the official price was 130€; still we searched for an ebay seller who sold them for 115€. That was ok - but 170€, just no. By now, even the PSP is cheaper (not that I care about the PSP, but I used to think it is more "high tech" than the DS), costing 150€. 

The crazy thing is that it obviously sells at this price. At least Iwata said so yesterday. Although a debut higher than DSphat is not too remarkable - after all, Nintendo dropped the price from 150€ to 130€ a little later, so sales probably didn't quite go through the roof back then. I really hope this repeates with DSi, that the 170€ price point is just to milk the early adopters. 

Yeah, I know what you will say: Nintendo doesn't MAKE you buy anything, they just offer new stuff on new tech, if you buy it it's your fault, yaddayaddayadda. But I see them moving all their key games over to DSi - first some "enhanced" games (Zelda:ST, probably), then exclusive (new Mario platformer?). Which happens all the time, Super Mario World was SNES exclusive, too. In this case though it's much more annoying, as the DSi offers so little improvements. Is there anything it adds to cartridge games but the cameras anyway? 

Its too expensive by $19.95. It shouldn't cost more than $150.00. And as long as Nintendo leaves DS Lite at $129.95, then there is a pricing conflict between the two systems. Nintendo needs to bring the price of the DS Lite down to at most $100.00. Otherwise the best thing for people to do is to buy a $60.00 used original DS at EB Games or ebay if they have to have one now and wait for a lot of quality DSi exclusive content to upgrade to that model.

um at least in the usa its cheaper then the Japanese price(180$) and if you dont think its the right price wait 1 or 2 years and it will be cheaper

It is even more expensive in the UK. 150 GBP = 200 USD approx

Whats more the Internet Browser is meant to be pretty lame which for me makes it a no sale.

I'll just wait for it to launch however and pick up a nice cheap DS Lite when they clear the old stock.

This is probably your primary faulty assumption - the average age of DS owners is nearly as high as that of Wii owners, which is to say adults. The DSi as an SKU is not intended for kids, it's intended for more upstream consumers who would actually use its fancy cameras and care about downloadable content.

I wouldn't wory about it. The Lite isn't going to be phased out anytime soon.

I hope you're right. But this being Nintendo, I wouldn't be surprised if they made Zelda:ST a DSi-enhanced game and produced some killer games like New Super Mario Bros 2, making them exclusive for DSi just to boost DSi sales. 

On the other hand, that would mean ignoring 100+ millions of DS users... maybe they won't do it, after all.

I cant see the DSi taking over the DSL unless Nintendo heavily supports the DSi functions that'll force you to cough up that doe.

I remember when Gameboy Colors were $69.99.. now the DSi is going to be $169.99. Oh well.. I'm not in a hurry to get one.