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gebx on 30 August 2007

Ok, so I'm not exactly sure if its an actual record but another Sony format bites the dust!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/30/so-long-atrac-thanks-for-nothing/

"Sony's CONNECT music services based on the ATRAC audio format are finally -- at long last -- coming to an end. In North America and Europe, anyway. The off again, on again music service with a penchant for the ol' ATRAC lock-in will be phased out. Buried in that US-bound video Walkman press release, Sony states that, "Specific timing will vary by region depending on market demand, but will not be before March 2008." The CONNECT e-book service for the Reader will not be affected." We expect the swift demise of ATRAC to follow."

"Connect customers are already being notified of Sony's move away from their "proprietary music format." They'll even provide future "guidance" for converting your library over to WMA or MP3 formats."

 

So let's go over some of Sony's other failed formats;

Mini-Disc (1991)--custom disc format, and used ATRAC audio compression, which is proprietary.

Sony Dynamic Digital Sound (1993)--a competitor to the Dolby Digital 5.1 standard.

Multi-Media Compact Disc (1994)--Sony's proprietary format for high-density optical storage, developed in conjunction with Phillips. Negotiations merged this format and Toshiba's Super Density disc format into what would become DVD.

Music Clip (1999)--Sony's first digital player, used ATRAC audio compression.

HiFD (1998)--a competitor to Iomega's Zip drive.

Memory Stick (1998)--proprietary memory device as a competitor to SD and Flash memory.

Super Audio CD (1999)--an optical disc format with higher fidelity than the CD.

Universal Media Disc (UMD) (2004) -- a proprietary media format for the PSP.

 

 



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konnichiwa on 30 August 2007

Hmm did the memory stick failed?






ssj12 on 30 August 2007
gebx said:

Ok, so I'm not exactly sure if its an actual record but another Sony format bites the dust!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/30/so-long-atrac-thanks-for-nothing/

"Sony's CONNECT music services based on the ATRAC audio format are finally -- at long last -- coming to an end. In North America and Europe, anyway. The off again, on again music service with a penchant for the ol' ATRAC lock-in will be phased out. Buried in that US-bound video Walkman press release, Sony states that, "Specific timing will vary by region depending on market demand, but will not be before March 2008." The CONNECT e-book service for the Reader will not be affected." We expect the swift demise of ATRAC to follow."

"Connect customers are already being notified of Sony's move away from their "proprietary music format." They'll even provide future "guidance" for converting your library over to WMA or MP3 formats."

 

So let's go over some of Sony's other failed formats;

Mini-Disc (1991)--custom disc format, and used ATRAC audio compression, which is proprietary.

Sony Dynamic Digital Sound (1993)--a competitor to the Dolby Digital 5.1 standard.

Multi-Media Compact Disc (1994)--Sony's proprietary format for high-density optical storage, developed in conjunction with Phillips. Negotiations merged this format and Toshiba's Super Density disc format into what would become DVD.

Music Clip (1999)--Sony's first digital player, used ATRAC audio compression.

HiFD (1998)--a competitor to Iomega's Zip drive.

Memory Stick (1998)--proprietary memory device as a competitor to SD and Flash memory.

Super Audio CD (1999)--an optical disc format with higher fidelity than the CD.

Universal Media Disc (UMD) (2004) -- a proprietary media format for the PSP.

 

 


 the Super Audio CD format wasnt a failure, it's tech was merged in the DVD format. And UMD isnt a complete failure as its still used for games. And memory stick is successful as most digital cameras use it. 



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your mother on 30 August 2007

Yeah, kinda.

The Memory Stick and Memory Stick Pro are almost extinct - in Hong Kong you can only buy second-hand ones.



damkira on 30 August 2007

How could you forget BetaMax? Maybe because it was before you were born.. I dunno.. but it was successful for a while and then lost out to VHS.

If there were a record for failed formats.... Sony is the winner hands down. 



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fazz on 30 August 2007

Yep, the Memory Sticks are dying too. The newest Sony Ericsson K850 will use MicroSD cards/M2 combo.



johnsobas on 30 August 2007
ssj12 said:
gebx said:

Ok, so I'm not exactly sure if its an actual record but another Sony format bites the dust!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/30/so-long-atrac-thanks-for-nothing/

"Sony's CONNECT music services based on the ATRAC audio format are finally -- at long last -- coming to an end. In North America and Europe, anyway. The off again, on again music service with a penchant for the ol' ATRAC lock-in will be phased out. Buried in that US-bound video Walkman press release, Sony states that, "Specific timing will vary by region depending on market demand, but will not be before March 2008." The CONNECT e-book service for the Reader will not be affected." We expect the swift demise of ATRAC to follow."

"Connect customers are already being notified of Sony's move away from their "proprietary music format." They'll even provide future "guidance" for converting your library over to WMA or MP3 formats."

 

So let's go over some of Sony's other failed formats;

Mini-Disc (1991)--custom disc format, and used ATRAC audio compression, which is proprietary.

Sony Dynamic Digital Sound (1993)--a competitor to the Dolby Digital 5.1 standard.

Multi-Media Compact Disc (1994)--Sony's proprietary format for high-density optical storage, developed in conjunction with Phillips. Negotiations merged this format and Toshiba's Super Density disc format into what would become DVD.

Music Clip (1999)--Sony's first digital player, used ATRAC audio compression.

HiFD (1998)--a competitor to Iomega's Zip drive.

Memory Stick (1998)--proprietary memory device as a competitor to SD and Flash memory.

Super Audio CD (1999)--an optical disc format with higher fidelity than the CD.

Universal Media Disc (UMD) (2004) -- a proprietary media format for the PSP.

 

 


 the Super Audio CD format wasnt a failure, it's tech was merged in the DVD format. And UMD isnt a complete failure as its still used for games. And memory stick is successful as most digital cameras use it. 


yeah....if you buy a sony camera.  Mostly everything uses SD now, it's the standard.



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sieanr on 30 August 2007

Compact Flash FTW



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ssj12 on 30 August 2007
johnsobas said:
ssj12 said:
gebx said:

Ok, so I'm not exactly sure if its an actual record but another Sony format bites the dust!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/30/so-long-atrac-thanks-for-nothing/

"Sony's CONNECT music services based on the ATRAC audio format are finally -- at long last -- coming to an end. In North America and Europe, anyway. The off again, on again music service with a penchant for the ol' ATRAC lock-in will be phased out. Buried in that US-bound video Walkman press release, Sony states that, "Specific timing will vary by region depending on market demand, but will not be before March 2008." The CONNECT e-book service for the Reader will not be affected." We expect the swift demise of ATRAC to follow."

"Connect customers are already being notified of Sony's move away from their "proprietary music format." They'll even provide future "guidance" for converting your library over to WMA or MP3 formats."

 

So let's go over some of Sony's other failed formats;

Mini-Disc (1991)--custom disc format, and used ATRAC audio compression, which is proprietary.

Sony Dynamic Digital Sound (1993)--a competitor to the Dolby Digital 5.1 standard.

Multi-Media Compact Disc (1994)--Sony's proprietary format for high-density optical storage, developed in conjunction with Phillips. Negotiations merged this format and Toshiba's Super Density disc format into what would become DVD.

Music Clip (1999)--Sony's first digital player, used ATRAC audio compression.

HiFD (1998)--a competitor to Iomega's Zip drive.

Memory Stick (1998)--proprietary memory device as a competitor to SD and Flash memory.

Super Audio CD (1999)--an optical disc format with higher fidelity than the CD.

Universal Media Disc (UMD) (2004) -- a proprietary media format for the PSP.

 

 


the Super Audio CD format wasnt a failure, it's tech was merged in the DVD format. And UMD isnt a complete failure as its still used for games. And memory stick is successful as most digital cameras use it.


yeah....if you buy a sony camera. Mostly everything uses SD now, it's the standard.


 yea, but the format was kept alive for quite a while before more advanced/cheaper to mass produce tech was released. It was a good format, and I had a panasonic camera a few years back that I dropped... but it has support for Memory Sticks. But at least most Sony cameras are always high quality so even supporting a dying format, it will be used. Isnt Memory Stick Duo holding up somewhat now?



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shams on 30 August 2007

Yeah, memory sticks never took off. In general any proprietary format any company pushes onto the market fails.

Sony will continue to support the UMD, but I think thats all anyone expected. Its just a special version of a compact disc for the PSP.

BluRay will be the real test.



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