The last time I remember seeing losses of those levels (with revenue that high) it was Infogrames... :P If Rockstar are profitable, but Take-Two are not... they should roll Rockstar into its own fully owned company. That also makes the numbers at Take-Two even worse. Im guessing T2 are trying to stay under the radar as much as possible until GTA4 is ready to show off. From some insider gossip I hear, I think its going to be amazing. Other companies are going to struggle to produce something half as good. I love the idea of that NaturalMotion stuff as well - finally it puts those idle CPU cores to good use ;) (its also going to be the first real application to compare the 360 & PS3 architectures...)