sieanr said:
Hahahahaha This is the same thing Nintendo fans said during the Gamecube and N64 eras. Literally the exact same thing, except it was the PS1/2 that had the overabundance of crap titles. |
sieanr said:
Hahahahaha This is the same thing Nintendo fans said during the Gamecube and N64 eras. Literally the exact same thing, except it was the PS1/2 that had the overabundance of crap titles. |
Dodece said: Sony must not allow themselves to be taunted by Microsoft. To allow Microsoft to control the agenda, because if that happens and Sony falls into lock step. The result will be the obliteration of their gaming division. Microsoft has an ulterior motive. Yes they want to outsell Sony, but more then that they want to force Sony to spend countless billions fighting them tooth and nail. Microsoft will come out better not just for having more money. They have a better economic strategy this generation. Microsoft can make the war brutal without being unprofitable. Anything that Sony will do now has to be unprofitable. To put it as simply as possible the more money Sony is forced to spend the less likely there will be a PS4. Sony makes consoles to make money, I know difficult concept to grasp. However if all Sony does is lose billions on console gaming eventually they will leave the market. Microsoft is not going anywhere and neither is Nintendo, so if Sony wants to compete they have to show an ability to be cost effective. That means they have to find a way to make money. I have said it before and I will say it again perhaps the best thing Sony could do right now this very moment is start to charge for its online service just like Microsoft. Find themselves a little more liquid cash to help them be more aggressive on multiple fronts. Like purchasing exclusives, and perhaps to fund later price cuts. |
While what you are saying is a possible scenario, let's not forget that Nintendo was NOT first for two generations straight. They were 2nd during the PSOne days and then third last gen. Now, they have bounced back. The same could happen for SONY. "Nintendo" was the household name. Later, it was "PlayStation." Now, is seems to be "Nintendo Wii" if not "Wii." I wouldn't doubt it would be "PlayStation" again when you consider the fact that SONY's PlayStation isn't in the same situation as Nintendo was during the last two gens.
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Noobie said: I think PS3 is not going to bounce back now with the coming XBOX price cut... Sony's arrogance and bad PR has costed them this generation... saying 2009, 2010, 2011..... is going to be PS3 domination years are just like living in fool's paradise... XBOX has more games, better online experience, more exclusives.. just look at this exclusive list for 2008... Sony is no match... and then now Sony has much much higher price... so i think sony is not going to pass even 50 million this generation... anyway repeating their mistakes is of no use... but i believe now Sony fans should accept the fact that they r going to be last this generation... and maybe they made a bad choice. http://qsf5.com/2008/08/06/exclusives-watch-2008/ Sony PlayStation 3 Exclusives
PlayStation Network Exclusives
Microsoft Xbox 360 Retail Disc Exclusives
* - Timed Exclusive Xbox Live! Arcade Exclusives
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Sure last but not the least...happy now? But to concede that I made the wrong console choice is just impossible. For me, ps3 was, is and still will be the best choice for my gaming needs this gen. Seems like a stretch so I'll elaborate
1. VERY IMPORTANT: ONE console plays all my games (both OLD and new)
2. Sure 360 has more games but I've never been one to buy that many games...only a select few and many more at the end of the console's life. This point could go either way.
3. I'd rather have the dualshock 3 in wait for Street Fighter and I prefer it for any kind of gaming anyway
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I think its just the opposite.
X360 dropped its price last august 2007 and managed but a one month and a half boost.This year 2008 sales from january to June have been around the same as 2007 prior to the price drop.
In others they are about 50K units weekly and being very generous( I mean ,the others others numbers are absolutely off as the Corean LTD numbers of the 360 when the Wii was released demostrate)..and that after two price drops ,one of them truly massive.
On the other hand ,Sony price drop last year managed to double and nearly triple the PS3 sales.And that has SUSTAINED over time.
X360 has nearly shot its last cartridge and can only barely outsell PS3 due to PS3 shortages due to the introduction of the new SKU.
BUT ,lets think a bit and try to imagine what will happen when the PS3 actually drops its price.
Is it just me, or a lot of those exclusives he listed likely going to suck? (especially on the 360)
At least 1/3 of those 360 exclusives (not including PSN) should be removed
THIS thread is an epic fail.
you said sony fans made a bad choice? why is it a bad choice for a consumer just because the company who makes their console isn't selling as well as its competitors? its not like sony is giving up on making games.. and they aren't going to by any means.
why should it matter to a consumer that the company isn't selling as much? the only thing that should matter to gamers is the games. i got a ps3 because it has metal gear and gran turismo. i don't and i shouldn't care about how the company is doing, because i know already that they will continue to pump out the games that i want.
do you go into a game shop to buy a console based on just how popular it is? if so, you're not a gamer. you're just someone who likes to ride fads.
this is why this thread is an epic fail.
Frankly the entire console war is a bust since PC has the strongest game line-up and following.
But since this thread is about 360 vs PS3, I will straight up say that the PS3 still has a massive chance of 2nd place this generation.
1. Sony is finally getting rid of the multi-SKU crap and focusing on one.
2. released their Greatest Hits collection which means some games are $29.99 versus $59.99.
3. Improving upon their system through updates to the PSN and PS3 firmware.
4. The HD format war is over and Blu-ray is starting to eat away at DVD's market share. As the PS3 receives price cuts or upgrades instead of price cuts customers will see greater value in having a game console with a build in Blu-ray player.
5. Releasing great first party exclusive titles as well as having strong 2nd/3rd party support.
Microsoft paid Sony to lose this generation. Lol, j/k. Yeah, I almsot don't want things to get worse for Sony, because the worse they get the more forums like this are flooded with compensatory support group threads decreeing the PS3's supperiority in spite of such hardship or speculate it's Jesus like return from the dead given any number of future variables.
I know its a slow period for Gaming news but I don't think the forum could survive another hardship for Sony.
KZ2 said:
I agree with this. VGC consists of over 60% pro Nintendo fans. 70% of the members of this site I believe own a Wii. So we have to say the Wii is competing with PS3 and X360 so no one complains.
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The same thing can be said about the PSP and DS - older technology, "casual" profits. The DS still ended up taking plenty of games. Just because the Wii isn't an HD clone doesn't mean you can leave it out of current-gen consoles like it doesn't exist. It has had a slow start for third parties, but it's getting there.
Jordahn said: While what you are saying is a possible scenario, let's not forget that Nintendo was NOT first for two generations straight. They were 2nd during the PSOne days and then third last gen. Now, they have bounced back. The same could happen for SONY. "Nintendo" was the household name. Later, it was "PlayStation." Now, is seems to be "Nintendo Wii" if not "Wii." I wouldn't doubt it would be "PlayStation" again when you consider the fact that SONY's PlayStation isn't in the same situation as Nintendo was during the last two gens. |
Of course Sony can bounce back, assuming they've learned from this generation. However, you speak of Nintendo like they were in a much worse position than they were - people seem to forget Nintendo focuses on profits. They can afford a failure, a third place console like the GCN, because they still profit off of it - compare this to the Xbox, which sold just slightly more yet ended up losing $4 billion. Staying in the business is not all about marketshare, it's about making profits. If Sony ends up with losses for the PS3, they aren't necessarily in a better position than Nintendo was before the Wii. I'm not saying ending with a large marketshare isn't important, but if the company doesn't make money there's no point in continuing - even Microsoft has its limits.
LOL... I dont post much her, just read mostly on this site but I must say that this is by far 1 of the most ignorant post's I have seen on here for quite a while. This fool has absolutely NO IDEA wtf he is talking about. Plz go troll your propoganda some were else so I dont accidently click on one of these again. "Back to real discussions I go"
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END OF GENERATION PREDICTIONS "9-21-08"
PS3=130M 360=90M Wii=120M DS=130M PSP=70M
Other Prediction: The PS3 will overtake the 360 XMAS of 09 "9-21-08"