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@ ioi - want to give your source up? You obviously have clear access to somewhat personal messages. I feel a bit violated, like you just went through my mail and read it all.

 It's probably one of the Vgchartz mods since ken invited them.



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ioi said:
@El Duderino

Go to a chat room, set up some email chains, use a small forum if you want to - your freedom of choice.

That isn't what is happening here though. This is a little more than a place for a few vgchartz friends to meet up. For the reasons I have described.

I think section 8 is a small forum of friends with email chains and chat rooms... its not more than that... we are just friends who want to talk in private... we are not taking anything away from VGChartz... thats all it is...



 

 

 

i think you guys should choose who you want in sec8, but it should be here.



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11/20/09 04:25 makingmusic476 Warning Other (Your avatar is borderline NSFW. Please keep it for as long as possible.)

ioi said:
I knew about this other section 8 a couple of weeks back or whenever it was created. Thankfully some of my close team I can trust to tell me everything.

Initially I didn't have a huge issue with it but my problems have obviously come to a head:

1. 50 people on a forum is more than a friends group. ~10-15 I can handle, but anything more than that smacks of being competition to the main site and will inevitably take you guys away from posting on here. What happens when it gets to 100 or 200 or 500 members? (only 10-15 members posted there regularly... some didn´t at all... kenzo never wanted more than 50 regular members... this was never a problem)

2. The minute all this stuff began about posting signatures on May the 8th, the secret codes, the hidden messages, you invaded vgchartz and made it my business. I don't understand it. If you genuinely want a private area where you can chat to others, why all this rubbish? Why not just go there and chat? (thats what we did but since we thought it would only be fair to be open about it we did the sig thing... the plan backfired and I already offred to make an official apology and explanation thread... I´m sorry about how it went down but right now thats all I can do about it)

3. Upon then reading the threads in more detail I have become angry about what seems to be (and of course I could be wrong) the true purpose of the forum - see my quotes. (What did you think the pupse of the forum was ??? The examples you posted here are far from representative of what sec8 was about... the most prominent threads were ones like: "Say something about the person posting above you..." 267 posts "the fail game" 159 posts "What is the avatar above yours saying?" 135 posts "... so as you see most of it was fun and games... then we had good topics to get to know each other like "Introduce yourself"...) 

Solve these three points and everything will be ok.

(Everything ok now ???) 


 



 

 

 

Unfortunately this might be an issue that can't be resolved with both sides happy.

I really do understand ioi's feelings when he went through so much trouble to do everything he could for this section 8, but I also understand you guys wanting a place to gather and chat.

The thing is, in the end, it seems like you guys are saying to ioi "thanks for trying, but we don't care." He put considerable effort into appeasing a very small portion of the site, who is completely rejecting what he's done, despite him meeting every request you've made... and some of those comments up there are downright vicious and insulting. Personally I'm disappointed that that's how you would treat ioi and the site.

Again though, this might not be an issue that can reach a true compromise past live and let live. It is a really sad situation though. :(



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I suppose that you (ioi) won't respond to my post, which is the best summation and representation of what we are/did/and are doing.

It isn't really that serious.

Seriously.



I'm moreso concerned with who has supplied you with their username/password combination and whatnot.

I feel very violated.



And ioi, you are cherry-picking like a mofo. Seriously. You have taken a post here, and a post there, and put it together to form some sort of idea about Section 8 that doesn't exist.

Methinks that you should go and read FishyJoe's signature.

Section 8 is not down to 2-3 people to decide who's in. It's a democracy, we all vote. You make it seem like something where two people decide everything, it's a community aspect.



HOLD UP! can you guys stop, seriously. This is getting nowhere. It is simple to fix thix.

ioi, please remember, these guys are great posters, they are funny and they contribute a lot to this site. However, they made a mistake and hopefullly they want to fix this.

Now sec8 members, What do you guys want?



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11/20/09 04:25 makingmusic476 Warning Other (Your avatar is borderline NSFW. Please keep it for as long as possible.)

^^ If you read the hole thread you will know what we want... I think we are very close to solving this problem by now...