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What's your internet speed?

Less than 10mbps 15 11.19%
 
10-50 mbps 38 28.36%
 
50-100 mbps 35 26.12%
 
100-300 mbps 35 26.12%
 
300-900 mbps 7 5.22%
 
900+ mbps 4 2.99%
 
Total:134
kirby007 said:
Intrinsic said:
Wha google and no one seems to be saying is how you will need an internet connection of around 50Mbs to be able to stream at 4k60fps.

Anything less than that and you will basically be playing at a lowerrez or lower fps.

That is why a program that compresses data to enable faster transmission and decompresses received data exist : codec

So it doesnt need the raw bandwidth you suggest

 

Errrr no.

You literally need like 25Mbs to smoothly stream a 4k30fps video on "YOUTUBE". I know this for a fact cause my internet peaks at 30Mbs. The second I pick a 4k60fps video I start buffering and dropping frames while maxing out my connection speed. And this is pretty simple, if it takes 25Mbs to stream 4k at 30fps, going to 60fps is literally you doubling the data you are receiving in each second. 

So pls next time do a little research before you try and come at someone and sound smart and condescending.

That "codec" you talkabout is the only reason we're even getting bit rates as "low" as 50Mbs. If this was native 4K (UHD disc) it should be around 128Mb/s.



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I just got my NBN today and I went from 8Mbps to 50Mbps. Now I can stream multiple devices without any issues.



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Man I was wrong about my 4 ms response time in my previous post :P

 

Get a bit different results depending on what speedtester I use. This was run on my WiFi (as you can se on the device being an iPad) but I doubt I get much better on my wired network.

 

As I said I pay for 100/100.

 

 

EDIT:// Bahh image crapped out, speed test says I have 2 ms response time and 109 up and 100 down



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Intrinsic said:
kirby007 said:

That is why a program that compresses data to enable faster transmission and decompresses received data exist : codec

So it doesnt need the raw bandwidth you suggest

 

Errrr no.

You literally need like 25Mbs to smoothly stream a 4k30fps video on "YOUTUBE". I know this for a fact cause my internet peaks at 30Mbs. The second I pick a 4k60fps video I start buffering and dropping frames while maxing out my connection speed. And this is pretty simple, if it takes 25Mbs to stream 4k at 30fps, going to 60fps is literally you doubling the data you are receiving in each second. 

So pls next time do a little research before you try and come at someone and sound smart and condescending.

That "codec" you talkabout is the only reason we're even getting bit rates as "low" as 50Mbs. If this was native 4K (UHD disc) it should be around 128Mb/s.

4k, 60Hz, 8 bit, Chroma 4:4:4 around 16Gbit/s uncompressed.

 

UHD disc : 4k, 24fps, 10bit, chroma 4:2:0 around 128mbit/s with codec H.265

 

Just for comparision.



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Peh said:
Intrinsic said:

Errrr no.

You literally need like 25Mbs to smoothly stream a 4k30fps video on "YOUTUBE". I know this for a fact cause my internet peaks at 30Mbs. The second I pick a 4k60fps video I start buffering and dropping frames while maxing out my connection speed. And this is pretty simple, if it takes 25Mbs to stream 4k at 30fps, going to 60fps is literally you doubling the data you are receiving in each second. 

So pls next time do a little research before you try and come at someone and sound smart and condescending.

That "codec" you talkabout is the only reason we're even getting bit rates as "low" as 50Mbs. If this was native 4K (UHD disc) it should be around 128Mb/s.

4k, 60Hz, 8 bit, Chroma 4:4:4 around 16Gbit/s uncompressed.

 

UHD disc : 4k, 24fps, 10bit, chroma 4:2:0 around 128mbit/s with codec H.265

 

Just for comparision.

Exactly, and google works their magic and further compresses that to sound 50Mbs for a 4k, 60fps stream. 

I see the majority of people playing  at 720p or 1080p and telling themselves they are playing at 4k/60fps.



dharh said:
vivster said:
Bandwidth means absolute shit for realtime applications. I can already hear the people with their 400mbps LTE modems complain about issues because of the lag spikes. And even your super 1Gbps fiber will not help you if you're using wifi.
The latency for streamed games is not at all comparable to the latency we have with locally played online games. Latency in streamed games affects input delay and as such effectively doubles your latency while playing. Short and smaller spikes will not be noticeable on local games because the game is using prediction, that is not possible when streaming video.

But while this sounds very dire I'm hopeful for its success due to 2 factors. Latency will improve significantly in the decades to come and the vast majority of gamers don't give 2 shits about quality or high fidelity.

Keeping in mind that the Stadia controller will be directly connected to the internet vs. connecting through a console or other device which is then connected to the internet.  So traditional latency issues will be a bit less, though not necessarily low enough for our more twitchy games/players.

Yes, it will connect via wifi to the access point instead of your other device which is also directly connected to the router, which will reduce the input latency by about 1%. The only scenario in which it will actually help with latency is if the device you're playing on is also connected via wifi, but those people are fucked anyway because they're now reliant on 2 unstable wifi connections instead of just one.



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melbye said:

50 mbps download and upload

edit: Did a speedtest

Did one while watching 4K content on Netflix



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melbye said:
melbye said:

50 mbps download and upload

edit: Did a speedtest

Did one while watching 4K content on Netflix

The speedtest is far too short to have a real impact on streaming. The video probably buffered enough data in advance so that you wouldn't notice a deteriorating picture or even stutters. So the difference between 52.67mbps and 47.30mbps is definitely not the amount needed for 4k video streaming.