JWeinCom said:
WolfpackN64 said:
Again, no contradiction. But I think that's a language mistake. When I sais "everything is caused", I mean it in the sense of cause and effect, as in moved (and potentially brought in to being).
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How did you establish the uncaused thing is a "being". As opposed to say quantum particles which do arise with seemingly no cause.
How did you rule out the possibility of multiple uncaused things? Granted you only need one to start off a chain, but if one could exist, it stands to reason that more than one can exist. Things are either possible or impossible. Not possible but just once.
How did you come to the conclusion that this necessary being is God? You used a capital G so I'm assuming you mean Yahweh Jehovah or whatever you call the Judeo-Christian god. And this god has tons of characteristics that are entirely unnecessary, and perhaps unlikely, for a first cause. So how did you get there?
How does a being exist without being caused? Saying it's necessary doesn't solve this problem. There has to be some kind of explanation for its existence for it to be justified. If you are saying its possible, then you have to establish some kind of mechanism or process, and why it could only apply to one thing at one time?
So, yeah. The argument is completely flawed head to toe.
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For one, Quantum particles or virtual particles do not "appear" out of nowhere. They're temporary states.
The assumption that this being is God is jist that, a reasoned assumption. No other necessary being really fits the bill so jumping inductively to this being God is a jump we logically can make.
The explanation for this being being uncaused is that it is a necessary being. The mechanism of which is that due to it's very nature, God would be uncaused.
And lastly, it's only flawed in the sense that you bring non-metaphysical arguments in a metaphysical argument to show how unlikely it would be. That doesn't really work either. Even then, the argument isn't fatally flawed.