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poklane on 13 April 2018

According to The Times and The Guardian Britain is preparing defenses at its RAF Akrotiri base on the island of Cyprus amid fears that Russia might launch a counter-attack on it if Syria is attacked.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/apr/12/uk-russia-tensions-rise-over-syria-attack-and-salisbury-poisoning-live-updates
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/biggest-task-force-since-iraq-on-course-for-syria-bpjn699bt
For clarification, this isn't just an air base on foreign soil, RAF Akrotiri is part of the British Overseas Territory of Akrotiri and Dhekelia. If Russia were to actually attack the base it would simply be a military attack on the UK and a reason for the UK to invoke Article 5 of the NATO treaty and declare war on Russia.



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HollyGamer on 13 April 2018
Helloplite said:
HollyGamer said:

I am more prepare then ever, and your answer is not reflecting your knowledge  at all. There is so many smart general out there but no war won by just strategy and tactic alone. 

You asked me if I am prepared for war. I told you that I am in fact educating the next generation of army officers, strategists and IR theoreticians. I do not claim to be smart nor to be well-versed in war tactics. Tactics imply a war has actually started. I do understand strategy however, which is not limited to war itself. From a strategic point of view, no country right now has any interest in a 'world war', let alone a 'nuclear war'.

Cold wars are far easier in terms of toll, and can also prove to be far more profitable. 2018 is far removed from the context of early to mid 20th century. Cyberwarfare is far more likely, and it is already happening. The good news is that you won't have to actually fight anywhere as a soldier. Land-based war will soon be obsolete, anyway, aside from intrastate conflict and interventions. Worry more about the spread of private security firms bringing us into new forms of war. 

If no country interested in war,  why china build a large naval fleet and US are increasing  it's Military budget , while Japan re arming them self?

Cold war are far easier agree , but did the cold war ended a long time ago, isn't  the reason why we have proxy war because cold war has ended. 

Yup agree on security firms and cyber warfare. 



fatslob-:O on 13 April 2018
Pemalite said:

Well. China's leanings can be difficult to quantify as they tend to be more focused on issues in their immediate vicinity. Aka. They want stability for growth.
Which is why they have typically done a good job toeing the line between North Korean interests and the United States.

But they are projecting a significant amount of power and resources into Africa and Asia though.

China only plays for itself ...  

I'm pretty sure they'd see a higher chance at reoccupying Siberia than it is to win against NATO ... 

Pemalite said:

Well. China is set to overtake the USA if it's current growth projections continue it's current pace, no Empire sits on top forever, but it will be a stupidly long time before China will be able to dominate the combined developed world.
The counter balance to China could of course be India, which has a population that can rival China's... But also has the benefit of having a population that is younger and a more equal male/female ratio.

It will be interesting to see how the coming decades unfold, I will of course be watching. :)

Meh, I don't expect China to ever eclipse the Americas and Europe combined simply because they are at a geographical disadvantage ... (hence their expansionist policies of reclaiming Taiwan and claiming the South China Seas for themselves over their Southeast Asia neighbors) 

But if they also conquered other territories such as Mongolia, Siberia, the Korean Peninsula and including Vietnam too then maybe a much greater (than what is just envisioned of reunification with Taiwan and control of it's southern seas) China would have a shot at rivaling Western powers and their colonies ... 

I do not believe India will be a serious contender for at least until arguably the next century since many of their structural issues prevent them from having the same stable growth as China once did ... (the age of industrialism is coming to an end but China was lucky enough to profit off it so that it can serve as their new foundation for large potential markets like automation, pharmaceuticals and integrated circuits however, India's home grown talent in these areas of expertise is sorely lacking) 



HollyGamer on 13 April 2018
fatslob-:O said:
Pemalite said:

Well. China's leanings can be difficult to quantify as they tend to be more focused on issues in their immediate vicinity. Aka. They want stability for growth.
Which is why they have typically done a good job toeing the line between North Korean interests and the United States.

But they are projecting a significant amount of power and resources into Africa and Asia though.

China only plays for itself ...  

I'm pretty sure they'd see a higher chance at reoccupying Siberia than it is to win against NATO ... 

Pemalite said:

Well. China is set to overtake the USA if it's current growth projections continue it's current pace, no Empire sits on top forever, but it will be a stupidly long time before China will be able to dominate the combined developed world.
The counter balance to China could of course be India, which has a population that can rival China's... But also has the benefit of having a population that is younger and a more equal male/female ratio.

It will be interesting to see how the coming decades unfold, I will of course be watching. :)

Meh, I don't expect China to ever eclipse the Americas and Europe combined simply because they are at a geographical disadvantage ... (hence their expansionist policies of reclaiming Taiwan and claiming the South China Seas for themselves over their Southeast Asia neighbors) 

But if they also conquered other territories such as Mongolia, Siberia, the Korean Peninsula and including Vietnam too then maybe a much greater (than what is just envisioned of reunification with Taiwan and control of it's southern seas) China would have a shot at rivaling Western powers and their colonies ... 

I do not believe India will be a serious contender for at least until arguably the next century since many of their structural issues prevent them from having the same stable growth as China once did ... (the age of industrialism is coming to an end but China was lucky enough to profit off it so that it can serve as their new foundation for large potential markets like automation, pharmaceuticals and integrated circuits however, India's home grown talent in these areas of expertise is sorely lacking) 

The problem with China is like u mentioned above is the geographical advantage, creating an island in South China sea also not favoring them with their relation with South East Asia country, even engage in small sea battle with his close friend Vietnam is a tragedy. 

 



fatslob-:O on 13 April 2018
HollyGamer said:

The problem with China is like u mentioned above is the geographical advantage, creating an island in South China sea also not favoring them with their relation with South East Asia country, even engage in small sea battle with his close friend Vietnam is a tragedy. 

If precedent is anything to go by then China was destined to be in conflict with Vietnam for the past millenniums, regardless ... 

Not even the formation of the UN could prevent a Chinese invasion of Vietnam so sooner or later history will repeat itself again one day ... 



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HollyGamer on 13 April 2018
fatslob-:O said:
HollyGamer said:

The problem with China is like u mentioned above is the geographical advantage, creating an island in South China sea also not favoring them with their relation with South East Asia country, even engage in small sea battle with his close friend Vietnam is a tragedy. 

If precedent is anything to go by then China was destined to be in conflict with Vietnam for the past millenniums, regardless ... 

Not even the formation of the UN could prevent a Chinese invasion of Vietnam so sooner or later history will repeat itself again one day ... 

Why would they invade , and not create a puppet regime instead ? It will much more sense and less resource . And also less negative perception from the world ? 



HollyGamer on 13 April 2018
poklane said:
According to The Times and The Guardian Britain is preparing defenses at its RAF Akrotiri base on the island of Cyprus amid fears that Russia might launch a counter-attack on it if Syria is attacked.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/apr/12/uk-russia-tensions-rise-over-syria-attack-and-salisbury-poisoning-live-updates
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/biggest-task-force-since-iraq-on-course-for-syria-bpjn699bt
For clarification, this isn't just an air base on foreign soil, RAF Akrotiri is part of the British Overseas Territory of Akrotiri and Dhekelia. If Russia were to actually attack the base it would simply be a military attack on the UK and a reason for the UK to invoke Article 5 of the NATO treaty and declare war on Russia.

Interesting , they can use that reason to start a military campaign. 



fatslob-:O on 13 April 2018
HollyGamer said:

Why would they invade , and not create a puppet regime instead ? It will much more sense and less resource . And also less negative perception from the world ? 

Why wouldn't they ? And having a puppet state is not enough of an iron first solution for them, they will go to great lengths to destroy any of their properties that will proclaim independence such as Taiwan ... 

Besides, if they conquer Vietnam they get to control their former military bases at the South China Seas giving more control over those waters! 



HollyGamer on 13 April 2018
fatslob-:O said:
HollyGamer said:

Why would they invade , and not create a puppet regime instead ? It will much more sense and less resource . And also less negative perception from the world ? 

Why wouldn't they ? And having a puppet state is not enough of an iron first solution for them, they will go to great lengths to destroy any of their properties that will proclaim independence such as Taiwan ... 

Besides, if they conquer Vietnam they get to control their former military bases at the South China Seas giving more control over those waters! 

I think it's more then enough because they have the same ideology  and close in border. For military base purpose they have artificial land ready for that matter. Initiating war with Vietnam will anger South East Asian Country , especially the tension already high there with Taiwan and Philippines.  



Nymeria on 13 April 2018
Faelco said:
WW3 has been near since 1945, and has been a lot nearer in the past than now.

And everyone hates nuclear weapons, but nuclear weapons are basically the only reason WW3 didn't happen so far. It would be so much easier and less risky to launch WW3 if a nuclear fallout wasn't part of the associated schedule. Not saying that nuclear weapons are good, but "OMG nuclear war is imminent we're all going to die" gets tiring.

I think people underestimate how much more destructive the bombs developed after World War II were compared to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  As much as nations may hate one another, they know the cost is so great it would be a Pyrrhic victory.

I'd say were farther away than the Cold War era because economics are so interconnected even a decisive victory for one side would take decades for the global economy to recover from.  Many powerful people all over the globe with vested interests in preventing large scale wars between G-20 nations.