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SpokenTruth said:
bigtakilla said:

Think away.

One of us has to.

Trust me, I know. It's nice to know you started though, maybe you can catch up.



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Final-Fan said:
bigtakilla said:

And how many have had that happen? Probably not the majority, lol. *Edit* But again we're dancing around the point that it is illegal, and it still is enforced. People may not get in trouble for it, but it's a thing. Some people may get money, but then again people get money for coffee being hot as well.

By "it is illegal", you mean that the anti-flag-desecration law is illegal, right?  But some stupid people illegally enforce the illegal law anyway. 

Funny it's still a law.



bigtakilla said:
Final-Fan said:

By "it is illegal", you mean that the anti-flag-desecration law is illegal, right?  But some stupid people illegally enforce the illegal law anyway. 

Funny it's still a law.

And what, in your mind, is the significance of a law that has been negated as unconstitutional but hasn't been formally repealed?  Is it simply a piece of historical trivia?  Or is there something more?  Please be specific.



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Final-Fan said:
bigtakilla said:

Funny it's still a law.

And what, in your mind, is the significance of a law that has been negated as unconstitutional but hasn't been formally repealed?  Is it simply a piece of historical trivia?  Or is there something more?  Please be specific.

The fact that people get arrested for desicration, regardless of whether they are charged.



bigtakilla said:
Final-Fan said:

And what, in your mind, is the significance of a law that has been negated as unconstitutional but hasn't been formally repealed?  Is it simply a piece of historical trivia?  Or is there something more?  Please be specific.

The fact that people get arrested for desicration, regardless of whether they are charged.

I think that any officer who does this while being aware of the unconstitutionality of the law is guilty of wrongful imprisonment or some similar crime. 

To the extent that police who are ignorant of the law's blatant unconstitutionality arrest flag-burners, that's no different from if a black man and white woman were arrested for being married, because the police officer forgot it wasn't the 1950s. 

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/mo-man-receives-7000-after-arrest-for-flag-desecration/



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SpokenTruth said:
Final-Fan said:

I think that any officer who does this while being aware of the unconstitutionality of the law is guilty of wrongful imprisonment or some similar crime. 

To the extent that police who are ignorant of the law's blatant unconstitutionality arrest flag-burners, that's no different from if a black man and white woman were arrested for being married, because the police officer forgot it wasn't the 1950s. 

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/mo-man-receives-7000-after-arrest-for-flag-desecration/

He wants it to be a formally enforced law so bad that he is willfully ignoring the consitutionality factor.

No, just stating it is a law that is enforced. 



Final-Fan said:
bigtakilla said:

The fact that people get arrested for desicration, regardless of whether they are charged.

I think that any officer who does this while being aware of the unconstitutionality of the law is guilty of wrongful imprisonment or some similar crime. 

To the extent that police who are ignorant of the law's blatant unconstitutionality arrest flag-burners, that's no different from if a black man and white woman were arrested for being married, because the police officer forgot it wasn't the 1950s. 

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/mo-man-receives-7000-after-arrest-for-flag-desecration/

It's not a law that a black man can't marry a white woman.

Essentially it's like saying the neighbor who is burning crosses shouting the N bomb with a white hood is perfectly acceptable. It's in his constitutional rights.

It may be his legal right of expression, but hardly acceptable.



SpokenTruth said:
bigtakilla said:

No, just stating it is a law that is enforced. 

Unconstitutionally.  How in the world are you not understanding this?   It is a violation of the Constitution to arrest someone for this.

Show me where I said it was enforced constitutionally, or get back on point.



SpokenTruth said:
bigtakilla said:

Show me where I said it was enforced constitutionally, or get back on point.

You didn't and that's the problem.  It is unconstitutional to enforce any flag descretation laws.

But it still happens, that's the point.



bigtakilla said:
Final-Fan said:

I think that any officer who does this while being aware of the unconstitutionality of the law is guilty of wrongful imprisonment or some similar crime. 

To the extent that police who are ignorant of the law's blatant unconstitutionality arrest flag-burners, that's no different from if a black man and white woman were arrested for being married, because the police officer forgot it wasn't the 1950s. 

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/mo-man-receives-7000-after-arrest-for-flag-desecration/

It's not a law that a black man can't marry a white woman.

Essentially it's like saying the neighbor who is burning crosses shouting the N bomb with a white hood is perfectly acceptable. It's in his constitutional rights.

It may be his legal right of expression, but hardly acceptable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_Integrity_Act_of_1924

Virginia's anti-miscegenation law was overturned as unconstitutional in 1967 but was not formally repealed by the legislature until 1975. 

Is it your position that a police officer would have been within his rights to arrest a black man and his white wife in 1973 for getting married even though that law was ruled unconstitutional six years earlier?  This is exactly analogous to the idea that a police officer is within his rights to arrest someone for flag-burning today. 



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