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oniyide said:
vivster said:

How is it bad though? People underestimate the willingness of consumers to pay for quality content. I mean just look at Kickstarter or Patreon. I think paid mods are pretty great. Now they just have to find a way to do it right and most importantly convenient.

Maybe we need a unified platform rather than a system by a specific gaming company. An open marketplace for mods with a client that allows for easy modding.

you mean a PC?

No I mean a unified storefront for mods on PC.



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Hm...nothing interesting for me. Was expecting doom 2 and or Rage 2.



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JEMC said:

vivster said:

How is it bad though? People underestimate the willingness of consumers to pay for quality content. I mean just look at Kickstarter or Patreon. I think paid mods are pretty great. Now they just have to find a way to do it right and most importantly convenient.

Maybe we need a unified platform rather than a system by a specific gaming company. An open marketplace for mods with a client that allows for easy modding.

As I said, I have zero confidence in Bethesda and what will this new business will mean for modders that don't want to take part on it.

Time will tell what happens but, given what we saw when Steam tried it, I'm not optimistic.

Bethesda or Valve don't have to be involved at all. It can be an independant store front where people put their stuff and then the game owners can go there and get their share but are not directly involved with the mod creators.

Why it would have any effect on modders who give away their stuff for free I don't know.



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Peh said:
Hm...nothing interesting for me. Was expecting doom 2 and or Rage 2.

I think Rage didn't sell enough to warrant a sequel... or as I would call it, the rest of what should be included in the first game.

And Doom came out last year. Give it another year or two before the next one!



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vivster said:
JEMC said:

As I said, I have zero confidence in Bethesda and what will this new business will mean for modders that don't want to take part on it.

Time will tell what happens but, given what we saw when Steam tried it, I'm not optimistic.

Bethesda or Valve don't have to be involved at all. It can be an independant store front where people put their stuff and then the game owners can go there and get their share but are not directly involved with the mod creators.

Why it would have any effect on modders who give away their stuff for free I don't know.

Because people woudl rip off other modders and steal their content, putting it up on the store. Whetehr it a direct complete rip-off or they change the color something miniscule to be NEW.

If people coudl get money for mods, you woudl see so much plagerism.



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Miguel_Zorro said:

I thought the Bethesda conference was good. (Shrug)

The content was fine, with two new games and some interesting DLC, and the presentation was far better than we typically see with like EA or Ubisoft.  I thought it was pretty good.

As usual, the worst part of E3 is that some fans are extremely entitled and complain about everything.  Especially, god forbid, when games are announced that aren't aimed directly at them.  The horror.



It's Bethesda, what do you expect?

Their big titles will not be shown at their conference, and when they don't have any in development you get their usual line up.



vivster said:
oniyide said:

you mean a PC?

No I mean a unified storefront for mods on PC.

ah ok



What was the deal with modders before? I think that if somebody works hard in making one, why shouldn't they be paid? It seems pretty logical. I remember there was a really big shitstorm when that was announced before, and I can't exactly remember why.



vivster said:
JEMC said:

As I said, I have zero confidence in Bethesda and what will this new business will mean for modders that don't want to take part on it.

Time will tell what happens but, given what we saw when Steam tried it, I'm not optimistic.

Bethesda or Valve don't have to be involved at all. It can be an independant store front where people put their stuff and then the game owners can go there and get their share but are not directly involved with the mod creators.

Why it would have any effect on modders who give away their stuff for free I don't know.

Any store would need to make money (at least enough to pay servers and admins), meaning that any money made by a mod needs to be splited between the author, the store and the company making the game of that mod. The result? The mods will be expensive and the whole business will fail.

And, what can I say, I think that money makes companies do evil things. so I wouldn't be surprised if a company decides to go against the free mods in order to try to force us to use the paid ones.



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