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Forums - Politics Discussion - America is a bigger threat to world peace than North Korea

Leadified on 24 April 2017
Ruler said:
Leadified said:

The opposite of fascism is anarcho-communism. Italian syndicalists were among the first fascists and similar movements were attempted in Spain and Portugal. Georges Sorel, a Marxist and syndicalist was highly influencial in fascist thought and Mussolini was a big fan of him.

By the way, if you go to your Wikipedia link, you'll see that syndicalism is in the fascist portal and Fascism is in the "See Also" section. If you go to the Italian Fascism page then you'll see this:

"Italian Fascism was rooted in Italian nationalism, revolutionary syndicalism and the desire to restore and expand Italian territories... According to Sternhell “most syndicalist leaders were among the founders of the Fascist movement,” who, in later years, gained key posts in Mussolini’s regime.[3]"

The oppsite of Anarcho Communism is Anarcho Capitalism or Libertarianism. The political compass, an image by them

Georges Sorel wasnt a marxist or fascist, he only influed some of them.

I dont see how Syndicalism proofs anything as the DPRK is state to begin with, the whole  Syndicalist ideology is based on some form anarchism doesnt have to say which version, left or right. Syndicalism isnt really considred even communism by many, in fact Anarchist communism isnt even Marxist-Leninist which the DPRK is. You just added it in there to find something to link the DPRK to Fascism.

 

 

Leadified said:

 

 

You think North Koreans have faith in their system, or does the perpetual state of fear keep everyone in check? Their army can do damage but not win a war, at least an offensive one.

The regime needs an enemy to pin its problems on and to keep the facade up. Once the facade fails then the whole house falls apart, why do you think NK is so restrictive on access to information about the outside world to its citizens?

I could say the same thing about the US. You would think they are the most secure nation geographically, economicley and militarily yet they have to constantly meddling in everyones affairs and fear mongering its population 24 hours a day. In its past 70 years the DPRK never was involved in any war unlike the US.

The US and other first world countries can afford democracies and some form of human rights because they can export their exploitation abroud trough imperialism like global trade. If they would be cut off from trade with poorer countries they would be just as cruel as the DPRK or any third world country to its population, like forcing their people to work in coal mines with bad condition etc. as someone would need to do the dirty work. 

You may want to take another look at your graph there and Sorel not a Marxist? You may want to check that.

Let's break this down. First, syndicalism as anarcho-communism  is your argument, not mine. Secondly, I highlighted that the economics of NK is the weakness of my argument, your assertion here is ridiculous. Third, I did not connect NK to syndicalism and this was already made clear to you in my previous replies.

"I could say the same thing about the US." Absolutely not, be serious here. However you did prove my point here, without the US then the NK regime would not be able to justify it's crimes.