I'm using actual data (sales numbers) to support my claim (2D Mario being just as impactful as 3D Mario), while you're using "because I say so!" logic to argue otherwise.

Everything I said about bundles remains true. ZombiU and WWHD bundles came before NSMBU. Actually it was at same time with Zelda, but whatever, this is a pretty insignificant point anyway. EDIT: Nope I was right, WWHD in October, NSMBU in November.

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Again, you are giving only sales date for sales of games, not impact they havin for system selling. Sales of games doesnt equel impact they havin on system. And its not "I say so", reality is that people get much more exaited for 3D Mario than for 2D Mario or any other 2D game.

NSMBU bundle arrived before SM3DW, also you had two release of game, standalone and with Luigi DLC.

There's no way to know 100% how good of a system seller a game is, so sales data is the closest you're going to get knowing, infact it's the only real way to tell. "Sales of games doesnt equel impact they havin on system." Where's your proof of this? That's what I mean by "I Say So!" logic, you make a claim without anything to back it up, as if I'm just gonna take your word for it. Now when a game sells extremely well (especially while there aren't many other notable games in Wii U's case) that means it was definitely a factor in a number of system purchases, simply because it sold too much not to be. That's just common sense there. Since 2D and 3D Mario sold roughly the same, it's safe to say their impact is also roughly the same. "reality is that people get much more exaited for 3D Mario than for 2D Mario or any other 2D game." Another claim without reasoning, hence "because I say so!" logic. Got any non-anecdotal proof of this? I fear you're mistaking forum go-ers for majority when they are infact the minority, see Call of Duty.

Do you think that outweighs everything I've said about bundles or something, because it doesn't, not even close.

If Mario Kart 9 is a launch title for the NX, there's a 100% chance I'm buying the NX at launch, no matter the price or specs.

Mario Kart 9 is unlikely.
They released mario kart 8 in 2014 AND its dlcs in apri 2015. So the mario kart team could pretty much start working on Mario Kart 9 in may 2015. Mario kart 9 could be a holiday 2017 game or more likely a 2018 game.

No we cant, but we can know what game brings more hype, have better effect on whole market and bringing much more bigger attention to platform. Thats why its more important to have 3D Mario at launch or 1st year than having 2D Mario or any other 2D platform game.

You've sidestepped long enough, provide proof or get out.

Internet hype doesnt mean anything, vocal forum goers do not represent the overall market.

And again what do you have to support the theory that 3D Mario is a bigger system seller than 2D Mario? If you cant back up that statement than it means nothing.

You want proof!? Look how receptions, revives, attentione...were for NSMBU and how they were for SM3DW.

Gave me proof that I am wrong or you get out.