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fatslob-:O said:
It's absolutely fair IMO ...

Most of the wealth is earned, not inherited and saying otherwise is denying ...

 

Totally agree. I hope more people can open their minds and see this.



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fatslob-:O said:
It's absolutely fair IMO ...

Most of the wealth is earned, not inherited and saying otherwise is denying ...

 

It's inherited by birth in a sense. Where you're born is very, very important.

 

A bum in the closest city can easily earn over $1.90 an hour. Let alone a day. 



LipeJJ said:
fatslob-:O said:
It's absolutely fair IMO ...

Most of the wealth is earned, not inherited and saying otherwise is denying ...

 

Totally agree. I hope more people can open their minds and see this.

 


Lol. 



MTZehvor said:

Minor issue; don't think this belongs in gaming discussion, but whatever.

I know many rich people that don't deserve the money they earn- good examples? Sports players and models. I never understood why they get to gain millions while people working to death get a few dollars a day. 

To put it simply; they get it because of supply and demand. People really want to watch sports; particularly those played at a high level. However, there are only so many teams any one nation can support. In other words, the supply of extremely high quality players is limited by the size of teams. Thus, those that are good enough to play at a professional level will get paid a lot to do so.

Meanwhile, sweatshop workers barely make enough to live on because there's thousands of other people who will make clothes for pennies a day. The demand for clothes is certainly high, but the supply of potential clothesmakers is even greater.

Sure, a lot of people will say "suck it up" or such. Though, I don't see how anyone could ignore such an issue. Most of us complain about little things such as a tomato in your sandwich, or maybe you're stuck with a test. Just kills me when people with a good life complain over nonsense. Makes it worse when the place you're from is filled with poor people(from Jerusalem. The poor people I see there always makes me feel guilty).

I don't think anyone will argue that it isn't a problem, but more along the lines of it's a nigh on impossible problem to solve without giving majority world nations time to develop, and perhaps some economic advice along the way so they don't spend themselves into incredible debt like Zambia has (very much aware of the hypocriscy coming from an American). If you, say, for instance, raise minimum wages in the country these workers are living in, the jobs will be taken elsewhere; corporations almost always seek to maximize profit. People will then turn to whatever they can to keep themselves fed; be it prostitution, selling drugs, or other even worse ventures. 

It would be nice if there was some balance between the rich and poor. 62 people shouldn't have the same amount of money as 3.5 billion humans. It would also be nice if a lot of people appreciated the life they have.

I'm not entirely sure I buy the "your life could be worse, so appreciate it more" argument, because yes, things could always be worse. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to fix the things that are broken in the first world, even if they're relatively minor problems compared to underdeveloped nations. Simply ranting rarely helps, but having open discussions about things that are broken or working poorly can be extremely beneficial, and oftentimes leaves both parties better informed.

(Though yes, I agree, getting upset about a tomato on a hamburger isn't useful)

That is my fault. My bad. However, I'm not sure if I can change the topic it belongs in. I think only mods can do that.

"To put it simply; they get it because of supply and demand. People really want to watch sports; particularly those played at a high level. However, there are only so many teams any one nation can support. In other words, the supply of extremely high quality players is limited by the size of teams. Thus, those that are good enough to play at a professional level will get paid a lot to do so.

Meanwhile, sweatshop workers barely make enough to live on because there's thousands of other people who will make clothes for pennies a day. The demand for clothes is certainly high, but the supply of potential clothesmakers is even greater."

I cannot argue against that. As much as I deny it, people do watch a lot of sports. 

"I don't think anyone will argue that it isn't a problem, but more along the lines of it's a nigh on impossible problem to solve without giving majority world nations time to develop, and perhaps some economic advice along the way so they don't spend themselves into incredible debt like Zambia has (very much aware of the hypocriscy coming from an American). If you, say, for instance, raise minimum wages in the country these workers are living in, the jobs will be taken elsewhere; corporations almost always seek to maximize profit. People will then turn to whatever they can to keep themselves fed; be it prostitution, selling drugs, or other even worse ventures. "

Of course it'll take long if we wanted to fix the issues in undeveloped countries. However, think about the religious countries- give them some education, internet, etc, and think how many of them will stop resorting to their superstition beliefs. There can be potential for the production needed to become a developed country. I mean, let's face it. No matter how many times a person from Africa reads their Bible, it won't solve anything. Though, some education is what's needed to make actual change.

 

"I'm not entirely sure I buy the "your life could be worse, so appreciate it more" argument, because yes, things could always be worse. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to fix the things that are broken in the first world, even if they're relatively minor problems compared to underdeveloped nations. Simply ranting rarely helps, but having open discussions about things that are broken or working poorly can be extremely beneficial, and oftentimes leaves both parties better informed.

(Though yes, I agree, getting upset about a tomato on a hamburger isn't useful)"

 

Never said you ignore every issue. All I said was that many people take what they have for granted. Considering the amount of people I see nowadays crying because a person on the internet said something idiotic(such as "you're gay" and whatnot), I've slowly lost patience. I have to admit it. It's wrong for me to go ahead and criticize the living hell out of people who complain. However, it's hard. It's truly hard when you're a person who learns to accept things for what they are and move on. 



 

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ironmanDX said:
LipeJJ said:

 

Totally agree. I hope more people can open their minds and see this.

 


Lol. 

What?





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LipeJJ said:
fatslob-:O said:
It's absolutely fair IMO ...

Most of the wealth is earned, not inherited and saying otherwise is denying ...

 

Totally agree. I hope more people can open their minds and see this.

Royal families? Kardashians?

Please tell me how creating a sex tape is an acceptable reason to become a millionare. 

 

Oh, and don't think I'm criticizing people such as Bill Gates. He earned everything from hard work(developed software and revolutionized computers). Why else do I have respect for him? because he's not selfish. He doesn't let his kids become filthy rich just because they're the son of Bill Gates. He also donates money and doesn't waste it.





 

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ironmanDX said:
fatslob-:O said:
It's absolutely fair IMO ...

Most of the wealth is earned, not inherited and saying otherwise is denying ...

 

It's inherited by birth in a sense. Where you're born is very, very important.

 

A bum in the closest city can easily earn over $1.90 an hour. Let alone a day. 

Where you are born makes an extremely huge difference.

 

Imagine the difference between a kid born in Dubai and a kid born in Somalia. In all honesty, who's going to most likely have a better career?





 

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12/22/2016- Made a bet with Ganoncrotch that the first 6 months of 2017 will be worse than 2016. A poll will be made to determine the winner. Loser has to take a picture of them imitating their profile picture.

LipeJJ said:
ironmanDX said:

 


Lol. 

What?



 

Think globally. I'm in the top 0.5% according to the other thread about a similar topic. I work 70ish hours a week to make that possible. 

 

 

Being born in Australia made this possible. I just took advantage, basically. Wealth is earned. If you're given the opportunity. 



MTZehvor said:

That doesn't necessarily make it fair, particularly when someone starts off in a much better position to earn far more money than most others. Fair assumes everyone is on a level playing field, with the same opportunities, and that's certainly not the case.

 

ironmanDX said:

It's inherited by birth in a sense. Where you're born is very, very important.

A bum in the closest city can easily earn over $1.90 an hour. Let alone a day. 

Granted, a lot of us may not get the same chance but since when did fair mean having equal chances ?

Being fair is the way of life in my eyes ...



hershel_layton said:
LipeJJ said:

 

Totally agree. I hope more people can open their minds and see this.

Royal families? Kardashians?

Please tell me how creating a sex tape is an acceptable reason to become a millionare. 

 

Oh, and don't think I'm criticizing people such as Bill Gates. He earned everything from hard work(developed software and revolutionized computers). Why else do I have respect for him? because he's not selfish. He doesn't let his kids become filthy rich just because they're the son of Bill Gates. He also donates money and doesn't waste it.



 

He said most of them, not all of them. Plus, I'm totally fine with the examples you gave... if someone made money with a sex tape: congrats, you actually did something worthy to someone, otherwise it wouldn't cause commotion. I'd also add that luck is a (minor) factor on about everything else on life too.



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won