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VGPolyglot on 15 September 2015
justiceiro said:
Things are bad, yes, the problems is we hardly care. We get more worked up about people closing streets making protests than about payng double for what was alreadly expensive. We are really, really passive. No surprise people in power get away with everything.

I guess your avatar is perfect then.



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Turkish on 15 September 2015
invetedlotus123 said:

I live here, and everyday things gets worse, prices of everything are rising indecently, if you are paid more than the minimum wage, you almost don`t get inflationary readjustments. Small and medium business are closing everywhere, the big business are firing everyday, unemployemnt is sky-rocketing, the spheres of government ( municipalities, states, federal district and Union) aren`t making any selections to hire new employees and are cutting benefits of the ones that are already there. 

Really, this country is turning to be inviable to live in long-term, soon I get my Bachelor Degree i`m  planning in learning German and starting my education all over again there, at least I`ll be paid in Euros and live in a country with some descent indicators, even if the first few years won`t be heaven, it is better to do housework or washing toilets there than being a lawyer here, I`m gonna to make more money, no joking.


where u living in brazil



fireburn95 on 15 September 2015

The way economies have always worked is, when something goes to the shits, it finds some way of fixing itself, albeit different, but not necessarily better, but fixed



mai on 15 September 2015

Hmm, interesting, South America is a black hole for me informationally, I hope smbd will shed a light on it for me.

From what I understand so far the biggest issue that bothers people is BRLUSD exchange rate has been plumetting lately and all consequences that comes with it. Politicians have been mentioned more than twice as the main problem.

But what are the suggested solutions exactly? And how exactly political change will fix anything?



invetedlotus123 on 15 September 2015
zehh25 said:

Just read some older posts and people from almost all coutries that commented here said almost the same thing. So, saying bad things about your home country is not an exclusivity from Brazil.

I also would like to add that it is very offensive the way that some people here refer to Venezuela and Argentina. We, Latin Americans, really need to improve somethings, like the respect for each other. This just shows that our problems with politicians start with ourselves. If we can't show respect for the other, why would we expect the politicians to do so? They are people like all of us, they (literally) reflect our choices and values.


Well, tell this to the press here, it is really common people using Argentina and Venezuela as countries that failed really bad. And really, I don't know where u from, maybe even Brazilian, but either way, Brazilians don't see theirselves as Latin American. We had a different formation and were colonized by Portugal while the rest were explored by Spain. And really, mainly in bigger cities like sao Paulo and Brasilia, people like to believe they are much closer to Europe and US than with latin america, they don't even want anything with poorer regions. 



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Moren on 15 September 2015
zehh25 said:

Just read some older posts and people from almost all coutries that commented here said almost the same thing. So, saying bad things about your home country is not an exclusivity from Brazil.

I also would like to add that it is very offensive the way that some people here refer to Venezuela and Argentina. We, Latin Americans, really need to improve somethings, like the respect for each other. This just shows that our problems with politicians start with ourselves. If we can't show respect for the other, why would we expect the politicians to do so? They are people like all of us, they (literally) reflect our choices and values.

I'm not blaming Venezuela for our short and long term problems, but hey, the toxic Chavista / 21st Century Socialism ideology originated from there.



zehh25 on 15 September 2015
invetedlotus123 said:
zehh25 said:

Just read some older posts and people from almost all coutries that commented here said almost the same thing. So, saying bad things about your home country is not an exclusivity from Brazil.

I also would like to add that it is very offensive the way that some people here refer to Venezuela and Argentina. We, Latin Americans, really need to improve somethings, like the respect for each other. This just shows that our problems with politicians start with ourselves. If we can't show respect for the other, why would we expect the politicians to do so? They are people like all of us, they (literally) reflect our choices and values.


Well, tell this to the press here, it is really common people using Argentina and Venezuela as countries that failed really bad. And really, I don't know where u from, maybe even Brazilian, but either way, Brazilians don't see theirselves as Latin American. We had a different formation and were colonized by Portugal while the rest were explored by Spain. And really, mainly in bigger cities like sao Paulo and Brasilia, people like to believe they are equal with us citizens and Europeans, they don't even want anything with poorer regions. 


I think the press is awful many times. They just show the info they are interested and use their power to manipulate people to make them agree with what they want (not a conspiration theory, I'd say it happens everywhere, just in diferent levels). Also, it is up to you to agree with the way that the press talks about other countries or not. If they talk this way, it doesn't make me think it is less disrespectful.

About being Brazilian, I'm from Uberaba, Minas Gerais. Not sure if you know, but you may know Uberlandia, which is about 100km from here. Uberaba is a city with almost 400.000 inhabitants and it is at Triangulo Mineiro, a region that is under a stronger influence from Sao Paulo than Belo Horizonte.

You wrote about people believing they are equal to US and Europeans citzens, it just shows me that another problem from Latin Americans is a lack of cultural identity. We have no reason to want to be like North Americans or Europeans, we should be proud of the people that once lived here and had way better sense of humanity than we do now. We can get to a high standard in terms of life quality without having to copy other nations. In the end, we share much more cultural similarities with our neighboors than we do with Portugal, and the same is true about them and Spain.



invetedlotus123 on 15 September 2015
mai said:
Hmm, interesting, South America is a black hole for me informationally, I hope smbd will shed a light on it for me.

From what I understand so far the biggest issue that bothers people is BRLUSD exchange rate has been plumetting lately and all consequences that comes with it. Politicians have been mentioned more than twice as the main problem.

But what are the suggested solutions exactly? And how exactly political change will fix anything?


The suggested solution is the federal government instead of raising taxes, they to lower them so business , mainly smaller ones, have a chance to grow. There are some points I believe are of extremely urgency

 

- create a new taxing system from scrap, since in brazil we live in a tax madhouse, many companies have entire sections just to discover wich taxes are being created and to pay them, but even so they can't pay all taxes in time and have to pay more

- Clean the governments, all of them, from employees that are there by indication and just receive money for little work. Our constitution requires functionaries of all speheres of government to be approved in a public selection, the only cases that can be indications are for directing, assessoring and "boss".

- Review the public debit. People complain about corruption, but the government spends more than 300 billion r$ just paying the interest of the debit for the owners. And this value just increases every year.



invetedlotus123 on 15 September 2015
Turkish said:
invetedlotus123 said:

I live here, and everyday things gets worse, prices of everything are rising indecently, if you are paid more than the minimum wage, you almost don`t get inflationary readjustments. Small and medium business are closing everywhere, the big business are firing everyday, unemployemnt is sky-rocketing, the spheres of government ( municipalities, states, federal district and Union) aren`t making any selections to hire new employees and are cutting benefits of the ones that are already there. 

Really, this country is turning to be inviable to live in long-term, soon I get my Bachelor Degree i`m  planning in learning German and starting my education all over again there, at least I`ll be paid in Euros and live in a country with some descent indicators, even if the first few years won`t be heaven, it is better to do housework or washing toilets there than being a lawyer here, I`m gonna to make more money, no joking.


where u living in brazil


Goiania, capital  of the state of Goias.



AEGRO on 15 September 2015
morenoingrato said:
zehh25 said:

Just read some older posts and people from almost all coutries that commented here said almost the same thing. So, saying bad things about your home country is not an exclusivity from Brazil.

I also would like to add that it is very offensive the way that some people here refer to Venezuela and Argentina. We, Latin Americans, really need to improve somethings, like the respect for each other. This just shows that our problems with politicians start with ourselves. If we can't show respect for the other, why would we expect the politicians to do so? They are people like all of us, they (literally) reflect our choices and values.

I'm not blaming Venezuela for our short and long term problems, but hey, the toxic Chavista / 21st Century Socialism ideology originated from there.


I know you are not blaming Venezuela.

People have to understand that one thing are the citizens like us, and other thing is the politicians.

I live in Venezuela, i know from first hand how severe the situation is in my country.

Chavez was a disease that spread across the continent sadly.

I know most countrys on this continent, including Brasil and Argentina, and their situation is nowhere near like what we have here. 

Nobody is talking shit about any country, just reality.

P.D. I actually bought my Ps4 in Buenos Aires LOL

P.D. 2. Wait a minute, i bought my Ps3 in Panama and my Ps2 in Miami 

Long ass time ago since i buy anything here