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So far Sony is really dominating this gen. Wii U not selling very well and Xbox One still ahead of its predecesor for the same time frame (not sure how long this will last).

I have to say, before E3 2013, I though this would be a very close gen with Xbox One taking US+UK, PS4 taking rest of Europe+World, and Wii U japan. I even though the Xbox One might have the lead Worldwide because of MS big pockets. And I am sure some off you did too.

But other people you would not expect to get this that wrong are the publishers. EA went full support for MS with Titanfall (and please let us not fall for could only be done on Xbox One ...) and almost started implementing their own type of DRM. Then you have got Square Enix ( FF type 0, FF XV, KH 3) all announced to possibly come to the xbox one. And maybe the biggest surprise of them all is Insomniac with Sunset Overdrive, and back in 2013 before the launch all we knew is that Sony has the Order, Bloodborne and marketing rights for Destiny (that was a big surprise as well) and WatchDogs while MS had: Titanfall (HAVE YOU SEEN Titanfall!!!), dead rising 3, forza 5, the cloud, Ryse, Sunset Overdrive, kinect 2 (remember the first one sold over 20 millions) + momentum from going to 30 millions consoles sold to 84 millions consoles sold  gen to gen, with Sony going from 155 millions sold to 84 millions sold gen to gen. Oh and let us not forget the "PS4 has no games" considered as "fact".



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Except publishers didn't make those deals with Microsoft because they thought Microsoft would win. They made them because Microsoft were able to pay for them, simple as that. Those deals will continue as well (see Rise of the Tomb Raider).



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Ka-pi96 said:
Except publishers didn't make those deals with Microsoft because they thought Microsoft would win. They made them because Microsoft were able to pay for them, simple as that. Those deals will continue as well (see Rise of the Tomb Raider).

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I feel bad for insomniac. They made some great games in PS3 but sold poorly. Resistance 3, ratchet and clank a crack in time deserves more sales. Then they again put their dice for the wrong system (Sony is partly to blame for this).



I agree, some of them believed MS would dominate this gen and did some wrong choices, but now it's more like MS throws them money so they'll do things for them.



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Id blame Sony for this more than MS. MS paid for more "Exclusive Rights" than Sony did.

Id back the any horse (wrong or not) if it paid me enough to do so.



Ka-pi96 said:
Except publishers didn't make those deals with Microsoft because they thought Microsoft would win. They made them because Microsoft were able to pay for them, simple as that. Those deals will continue as well (see Rise of the Tomb Raider).


Pretty much this, these deals were about money and off setting risk, not about who the publishers thought would sell more consoles...



Ka-pi96 said:
Except publishers didn't make those deals with Microsoft because they thought Microsoft would win. They made them because Microsoft were able to pay for them, simple as that. Those deals will continue as well (see Rise of the Tomb Raider).

Of course MS pay them for the deals, and seeing how this gen has turned out so far, they probably feel like MS got those deals cheap. Now if MS wants to try to continue to have those same kind of deals, those publishers can now ask for a lot more money to compensate the money they would not be getting releasing for the PS4. 

Even EA chief financial said: "I think you should assume that we made that decision when it was back a few years ago when we decided to go exclusive," 

"We had some forecast at that time from where we thought both Xbox and PlayStation would be and that's what we based our decision on. I think we're still feeling very comfortable with that,"



Ka-pi96 said:
Except publishers didn't make those deals with Microsoft because they thought Microsoft would win. They made them because Microsoft were able to pay for them, simple as that. Those deals will continue as well (see Rise of the Tomb Raider).

 

Not to the same extent we've been seeing last gen and the beginning of this. I will have to disagree with you. Moneyhatting is most feasible when you either have total domination or a close sell through ratio with the competition.

 

With the perpetual rise of development costs and ease of porting between the two, the amount of money MS will have to pay to keep anything away from Sony will only increase as Sony's lead in sales does as well. I'm sure the two correlate;

 

On top of that, this whole notion that MS is willing to take loss after loss for little gain is ridiculous. 



riecsou said:

 I even though the Xbox One might have the lead Worldwide because of MS big pockets. And I am sure some off you did too.

I never thought XBO would take worldwide, simply because I didn't think Sony would screw up their launch so gigantically again.

Anyway, I don't think publishers neccisarily thought MS would dominate or be neck and neck with PS4. But they probably thought it would be closer, yes. And they probably thought the XBO userbase would have had a wider range of taste for other genres outside of shootin' n drivin' n sports.
But as we're seeing now, there's a huge disparity in sales ration between the XBO version and PS4 version of some games from some other genres. Even in the US and UK where the install base is rather similar. FF Type 0 sold 4:1 on PS4 in US, and the same ratio in the UK. Imagine what it looks like in the rest of the world then, where PS4 is completey dominating?
The PS2 owners who switched to 360 last gen and switched back to PS4 this gen probably play a noticable part in this.

It seems like as the generation goes on, and PS4 pics up more steam, more and more Japanese games will pass up XBO.