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What was the biggest mistake in handling announcing how we could get Xenosaga HD?

Overestimating demand for... 10 43.48%
 
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Well, the news has hit and 3 months later only a handful of people signed on to support Xenosaga HD.

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Katsuhiro_Harada_DirectorProducer_at_Bandai_Namco_Remaster_the_Xenosaga_Trilogy_for_Global_Release/

This in turn had Katsuhiro Harada responding:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ngsp5q

So I think it's time to face it, he isn't going to get 10s of thousands of signatures, it may squeek 10000 out but that will be pushing it. The question is, where did he/we go wrong? I've got a various examples, but I would also like to know what you think if the people here have anything to add.

1) There just isn't a market for Xenosaga.

Obviously one of the biggest everyone needed to overcome was the fact the game is from a series that no one really played, which gets even more complicated when you look at the overall critical reaction to the games that at most seem to be luke warm to worse. Even I have to readily admit it's the weakest link in a series I love. 

2) No real way to get the message out to the JRPG crowd. 

The news popped up on a twitter message and then was laid into fan's hands and gaming websites to do the rest. There wasn't even a mention of it on the Bandai Namco official website. This pretty much means the amount of people that will ever know of the petition is already greatly limited. 

3) (My personal belief of this games biggest hurdle was) People simply don't want to support something if they don't know what they will be getting.

Katsuhiro needed to lay out exactly what he wanted to do with Xenosaga. What he was going to update, what was going to remain the same, what platform(s) it was going to be on, exactly how many signatures (within reason) he is looking for on the petition, who was going to be in charge of developing the game, ect. It would have also been GREATLY benificial to have something made up to show to get people hyped, if the idea came to him longer than a drunken night of wishful tweeking he should have found people in his staff that were interested in this as well and came up with something.

Also, If he would have targeted a platform or showed the desire to release on all platforms, then maybe the companies they were going to support could help get the word out and generate some more buzz. People wouldn't have this feeling they are going to be suckered into signing something for a game they aren't going to experience. One of the greatest reasons Op Rainfall worked was because it was an attack from multiple directions. They got calls to the Nintendo Headquarters, they got their facebook and twitter hammered with support, and they got petitions that generated around 5000 signatures in 3 days instead of 3 months. They were only able (and willing) to do this though, by knowing exactly what they were fighting for. 

So what do you think? Do share!



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I don't think anyone really cares for an HD remaster of an average JRPG series even speaking as a former JRPG devotee ...



Imo, he should start a kickstarter and see how that goes! Imo, Kickstarter games seem to get more press (?) than say, twitter signatures and people are also putting money where their mouth is! Heck, someone even pay thousands of dollars by themselves if they really want it to be made.

In any case, it sucks but I do hope that they don't quit on it completely!



             

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Because xenosaga was a horrible, horrible, horrible series of games that deserve nothing but the sweet embrace of fire, but I would pity the napalm being wasted on erasing such a worthless abomination from this world.



fatslob-:O said:
I don't think anyone really cares for an HD remaster of an average JRPG series even speaking as a former JRPG devotee ...


It wasn't...well, maybe it was, but the third game was gold. I swear if the second game didn't exist the games would be so much better. 



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cheshirescat said:
Because xenosaga was a horrible, horrible, horrible series of games that deserve nothing but the sweet embrace of fire, but I would pity the napalm being wasted on erasing such a worthless abomination from this world.


I'm curious, have you played the entire series?



Clyde32 said:


It wasn't...well, maybe it was, but the third game was gold. I swear if the second game didn't exist the games would be so much better. 

Well there had to be a reason as to why it's not so fondly remembered compared to other JRPGs that were on the PS2 ... 



fatslob-:O said:
Clyde32 said:


It wasn't...well, maybe it was, but the third game was gold. I swear if the second game didn't exist the games would be so much better. 

Well there had to be a reason as to why it's not so fondly remembered compared to other JRPGs that were on the PS2 ... 


Look at the sales. The first game sold well, but the second game killed the series. Literally. After the second game flopped critically(and possibly commercially), Namco gave them one last game to make, and then pulled the plug on the series. 

 

I feel as though what xenosaga was lacking, were the moments that drew people in. There were no moments that put you at the edge of your seat. The third game had a few of those(and boy were they good), but the other games lacked them. 

I feel as though it just didn't do well enough to draw people in. The games had an awesome story, but the problem was, in order to get to the bulk of the story, you had to go through the first two games. 

 

Had some really good trailers though. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pq6tE7UP0g



So, i'm interested in this and i had never heard of this petition. It obviously wasnt spread enough. Its silly to think there isnt a market for it when Xenoblade is so popular. 

I say, go to Nintendo with it and release it exclusively on the Wii U. It will garantee at least 100-200k sales.



Clyde32 said:
cheshirescat said:
Because xenosaga was a horrible, horrible, horrible series of games that deserve nothing but the sweet embrace of fire, but I would pity the napalm being wasted on erasing such a worthless abomination from this world.


I'm curious, have you played the entire series?


Bought the trilogy all at once as xenogears had always been a favorite, what could go wrong, aside from absolutely everything?  Slogged my way through the first, cutscene after skull-fucking-boring cutscene, tried to convince myself the second couldn't be any worse, and it wasn't, but it didn't give me even the tiniest glimmer of hope for the third so I stopped, because I'm not a masochist.