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r3tr0gam3r1337 said:


the fact is that while you can go on about this that and the other getting away from the actual point, just because the Sapphire card performs better under air cooling does not instantly make it the top tier card, the way your saing it is like saying AMD's reference design for the 295X2 is better than ASUS's ARES III card, not that sapphire though dedicated to AMD have not made their own dual GPU card that runs as cool as the ASUS card, Sapphire are good for value vs performance while ASUS's ROG is all about performance, the Matrix card has LN2 and a molex connector to heat up the vram while the card is running record breaking overclocks, something the varpor X does not have.

 

EVGA may be Nvidia only but that doesn't stop ASUS from producing some ground breaking cards their either, a perfect example is their MARS III card ( a dual 760 on one PCB) even Nvidia hadn't made a dual 760 and neither had EVGA, don't just fall for the assumption a manufacturer dedicated to one companie is better than one that caters for many.

I thought about writing up a long, detailed response to your points, but figured there's no point. The fact of the matter is that the cooler on the ROG Matrix is fundamentally not suitable for cooling the R9 290x's Hawaii GPU. I don't know why you brought up other cards which are not at all analogous to the ones we're talking about, or watercooling for custom PCB cards which are not geared towards watercooling because you have to take off the cooler, so you're paying a premium for just about no reason, but none of that is relevant. I've given you evidence which shows that despite all of the superfluous features the ROG Matrix has, it still cannot perform as well as the Vapor-X when both are overclocked to its limit. in most cases, it performs about as well overclocked as the Vapor-X does at stock levels. They're both the same price as well. The Vapor-X is the highest tier of aftermarket R9 cards you can buy.

As far as EVGA being superior because it is Nvidia only, there are multiple reasons for why they make the best Nvidia cards, but it doesn't seem to matter if I tell you them because you'll just assume I'm blindly supporting the company because they're exclusive to Nvidia.

And with that, I'm bowing out. There's no point in getting hostile over something that is really irrelevant at this point, because premium 290x's are becoming obsolete.



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ofrm1 said:

I thought about writing up a long, detailed response to your points, but figured there's no point. The fact of the matter is that the cooler on the ROG Matrix is fundamentally not suitable for cooling the R9 290x's Hawaii GPU. I don't know why you brought up other cards which are not at all analogous to the ones we're talking about, or watercooling for custom PCB cards which are not geared towards watercooling because you have to take off the cooler, so you're paying a premium for just about no reason, but none of that is relevant. I've given you evidence which shows that despite all of the superfluous features the ROG Matrix has, it still cannot perform as well as the Vapor-X when both are overclocked to its limit. in most cases, it performs about as well overclocked as the Vapor-X does at stock levels. They're both the same price as well. The Vapor-X is the highest tier of aftermarket R9 cards you can buy.

As far as EVGA being superior because it is Nvidia only, there are multiple reasons for why they make the best Nvidia cards, but it doesn't seem to matter if I tell you them because you'll just assume I'm blindly supporting the company because they're exclusive to Nvidia.

And with that, I'm bowing out. There's no point in getting hostile over something that is really irrelevant at this point, because premium 290x's are becoming obsolete.


top tier card = best performance that can be gained from the card, just because Sapphire make a really good air cooled card does not make them top tier, it's the same with EVGA (hell knows where you got "As far as EVGA being superior because it is Nvidia only" from as i have not said that, not once), i may own an EVGA card but im not going to get over defensive when someone says it's not the top tier manufacturer! cause their not and just to answer another comment you made about water cooled cards, the ARES III is not just the water block it's the entire card and their are other vendors who have watercooled cards so you dont have to take the air cooler off and replace with a water block http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-054-TL&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1752

basically the long and short is ASUS are well known for their reord breaking hardware, im not saying Sapphire are bad or their not as good as ASUS just Sapphire arent really knowen for setting overclock world records which ASUS is, as for the 290X becoming obsolete i don't see how you came to that conclusion as there are plenty on overclockers, scan, aria, newegg, ncix etc.



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MikeRox said:
Christ alive, andhhere's me chuffed to have just ordereda GTX 970 lol

As you should. The 970 is an excellent card and a much better buy than a 980 from a performance/price point of view.



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