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3sexty said:
Eddie_Raja said:
3sexty said:
GribbleGrunger said:
3sexty said:


Well there you go.  Don't believe everything you read on GAF :)...360 owners are now truly moving over to XONE in earnest.  

My God, just calm yourself down. They bought the XB1 because it was dirt cheap, not because of any loyalty. This is ONE month out of a full year of being beaten. For a FULL year hundreds of Gaffers moved over to the PS4 from the 360.

I'm sorry if you felt my comment was aggressive which it wasn't by the way. I was merely making a statement about how I think that the vast majority of Xbox 360 owners in the U.S are most likely going to upgrade to XBONE and the latest NPD supports this albeit with the help of a price advantage too. Again sorry if I offended you man!

One month of winning by a small margin does not = proving what you said correct lol.  1/12 is an F.

The biggest 1/12th of the year. Then what when the trend continues in Dec and of course the next holidays. 400k diff for one month is really significant. That is like big and the difference in the U.S is getting smaller. So you don't think that there will be an XBONE lead in the U.S after all is said and done.


It has nothing to do with what I would want.  I only think based on facts and evidence.  At the end of the day there is no evidence that the X1 will ever lead in the US.  One month is so far from enough evidence that it is silly.

Xbox has ALWAYS gotten a bigger bump in the holiday seasons than Playstation has.  The difference now is that instead of outselling 3:1 (Like the 360 did to the PS3 every holiday in the US), it outsold it 1.3:1.  See where I am going with this?

That is a 231% change in ratio, and enough to clearly show that the PS4 will widen the gap 10/12 months of the year, EVERY year.    Then the X1 will try to take back some lead for two months.  Yes they are the biggest two months, but they come nowhere close to making up for the curbstomping X1 will be getting 83% of the yar.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

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3sexty said:

The biggest 1/12th of the year. Then what when the trend continues in Dec and of course the next holidays. 400k diff for one month is really significant. That is like big and the difference in the U.S is getting smaller. So you don't think that there will be an XBONE lead in the U.S after all is said and done.


Most definitely. Its only a matter of time before the X1 overtakes the PS4 in the US. I said it before that there were still a lot of 360 owners that have yet to transfer to the X1. They were just waiting for a good deal and now it has happened and kaboom! 400k lead for the month.

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Eddie_Raja said:
3sexty said:
Eddie_Raja said:
3sexty said:
GribbleGrunger said:
3sexty said:


Well there you go.  Don't believe everything you read on GAF :)...360 owners are now truly moving over to XONE in earnest.  

My God, just calm yourself down. They bought the XB1 because it was dirt cheap, not because of any loyalty. This is ONE month out of a full year of being beaten. For a FULL year hundreds of Gaffers moved over to the PS4 from the 360.

I'm sorry if you felt my comment was aggressive which it wasn't by the way. I was merely making a statement about how I think that the vast majority of Xbox 360 owners in the U.S are most likely going to upgrade to XBONE and the latest NPD supports this albeit with the help of a price advantage too. Again sorry if I offended you man!

One month of winning by a small margin does not = proving what you said correct lol.  1/12 is an F.

The biggest 1/12th of the year. Then what when the trend continues in Dec and of course the next holidays. 400k diff for one month is really significant. That is like big and the difference in the U.S is getting smaller. So you don't think that there will be an XBONE lead in the U.S after all is said and done.


It has nothing to do with what I would want.  I only think based on facts and evidence.  At the end of the day there is no evidence that the X1 will ever lead in the US.  One month is so far from enough evidence that it is silly.

Xbox has ALWAYS gotten a bigger bump in the holiday seasons than Playstation has.  The difference now is that instead of outselling 3:1 (Like the 360 did to the PS3 every holiday in the US), it outsold it 1.3:1.  See where I am going with this?

That is a 231% change in ratio, and enough to clearly show that the PS4 will widen the gap 10/12 months of the year, EVERY year.    Then the X1 will try to take back some lead for two months.  Yes they are the biggest two months, but they come nowhere close to making up for the curbstomping X1 will be getting 83% of the yar.

However you are basing ur prediction that XONE will never catch up in the U.S based on the pre price cut cut results over the last 12 months. If the new price remains as well as factoring holiday periods into this then don't you think we have a real game changer here?? You are missing the price factor here.



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3sexty said:
Eddie_Raja said:
3sexty said:
Eddie_Raja said:
3sexty said:
GribbleGrunger said:
3sexty said:


Well there you go.  Don't believe everything you read on GAF :)...360 owners are now truly moving over to XONE in earnest.  

My God, just calm yourself down. They bought the XB1 because it was dirt cheap, not because of any loyalty. This is ONE month out of a full year of being beaten. For a FULL year hundreds of Gaffers moved over to the PS4 from the 360.

I'm sorry if you felt my comment was aggressive which it wasn't by the way. I was merely making a statement about how I think that the vast majority of Xbox 360 owners in the U.S are most likely going to upgrade to XBONE and the latest NPD supports this albeit with the help of a price advantage too. Again sorry if I offended you man!

One month of winning by a small margin does not = proving what you said correct lol.  1/12 is an F.

The biggest 1/12th of the year. Then what when the trend continues in Dec and of course the next holidays. 400k diff for one month is really significant. That is like big and the difference in the U.S is getting smaller. So you don't think that there will be an XBONE lead in the U.S after all is said and done.


It has nothing to do with what I would want.  I only think based on facts and evidence.  At the end of the day there is no evidence that the X1 will ever lead in the US.  One month is so far from enough evidence that it is silly.

Xbox has ALWAYS gotten a bigger bump in the holiday seasons than Playstation has.  The difference now is that instead of outselling 3:1 (Like the 360 did to the PS3 every holiday in the US), it outsold it 1.3:1.  See where I am going with this?

That is a 231% change in ratio, and enough to clearly show that the PS4 will widen the gap 10/12 months of the year, EVERY year.    Then the X1 will try to take back some lead for two months.  Yes they are the biggest two months, but they come nowhere close to making up for the curbstomping X1 will be getting 83% of the yar.

However you are basing ur prediction that XONE will never catch up in the U.S based on the pre price cut cut results over the last 12 months. If the new price remains as well as factoring holiday periods into this then don't you think we have a real game changer here?? You are missing the price factor here.

Price factor?  I saw it.  The X1 was practically sold for $100 less than the PS4 and it only won by 33% even though most people seem to think it had better games this holiday.

Over the past 12 months?  It has nearly always been significantly cheaper with a slew of bundles at every turn.  Sony is just raking in the cash right now.  It is CHEAPER to make the PS4!!!  They could drop the price lower than the X1's if they felt like it but first they are going to see how much damage The Order and Bloodborne do.  Hell these games are followed by MGSV, No Man's Sky, and then god knows what else they anounce at E3 to compliment Uncharted 4.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Eddie_Raja said:

Price factor?  I saw it.  The X1 was practically sold for $100 less than the PS4 and it only won by 33% even though most people seem to think it had better games this holiday.

Over the past 12 months?  It has nearly always been significantly cheaper with a slew of bundles at every turn.  Sony is just raking in the cash right now.  It is CHEAPER to make the PS4!!!  They could drop the price lower than the X1's if they felt like it but first they are going to see how much damage The Order and Bloodborne do.  Hell these games are followed by MGSV, No Man's Sky, and then god knows what else they anounce at E3 to compliment Uncharted 4.

Only 33 %?

Let's take a look at how much those "only 33 % represent"

Due to the high number of units sold in november those 33 % represents almost half a year of accumulated advantage of PS4.



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TheDrill said:
Eddie_Raja said:
 

Price factor?  I saw it.  The X1 was practically sold for $100 less than the PS4 and it only won by 33% even though most people seem to think it had better games this holiday.

Over the past 12 months?  It has nearly always been significantly cheaper with a slew of bundles at every turn.  Sony is just raking in the cash right now.  It is CHEAPER to make the PS4!!!  They could drop the price lower than the X1's if they felt like it but first they are going to see how much damage The Order and Bloodborne do.  Hell these games are followed by MGSV, No Man's Sky, and then god knows what else they anounce at E3 to compliment Uncharted 4.

Only 33 %?

Let's take a look at how much those "only 33 % represent"

Due to the high number of units sold in november those 33 % represents almost half a year of accumulated advantage of PS4.

Yep in a year everyone said the X1 has better games.  You don't think that will change next year when the PS4 finally brings out its big guns?



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Another week another X1 week.
Almost 100k difference again.
The gap is closing at a huge distance, X1 is closing the gap in weeks, which took Ps4 more than a year to build.



Eddie_Raja said:
TheDrill said:
Eddie_Raja said:
 

 

Only 33 %?

Let's take a look at how much those "only 33 % represent"

Due to the high number of units sold in november those 33 % represents almost half a year of accumulated advantage of PS4.

Yep in a year everyone said the X1 has better games.  You don't think that will change next year when the PS4 finally brings out its big guns?

I don't understand what you are even talking about ?



another great victory for X1.

Best christmas ever!



TheDrill said:
Another week another X1 week.
Almost 100k difference again.
The gap is closing at a huge distance, X1 is closing the gap in weeks, which took Ps4 more than a year to build.


I saw you predicted that x1 will close the gap with ps4 in 10 weeks starting december (100k weekly gap as you said), ready for a bet on it?



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