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Obama, cause he tries to atleast help a country with *Obamacare* But it is a system that works with several countries around the world. It gives free education, free health care etc etc. when the system is properly up and running. It's the republicans i fear in US. they control it all.. the president is just a face to satisfy *free will*



 

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Baryonyx said:

Obama, cause he tries to atleast help a country with *Obamacare* But it is a system that works with several countries around the world. It gives free education, free health care etc etc. when the system is properly up and running. It's the republicans i fear in US. they control it all.. the president is just a face to satisfy *free will*


Free?

Yeah, free. Because money grow on trees.

The US has a collapsing middle class, the super rich getting away with the money, and a bulging underclass build on cheap immigrant labor tied to the minimum wage or even less. This spells disaster for any system trying to emulate scandinavian or canadian welfare, and these issues are not likely to be solved even on the long term.

Maybe what the US needs is a strong middle ground on its polarized politics. Lest I remind you to turn a  steering wheel on a single direction is likely to have you going around in circles very soon...

OT - Andrew Jackson. He killed the bank.  Also, Lincoln and Kennedy.



 

 

 

 

 

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I laugh at the people who are already voting for Obama as the best. It's just like the people who are already calling Bayonetta 2 GOTY. Too funny, too funny.

I'll say Washington because some guy in here said he's one of the worst and it's fun to disagree with people. (Although there are some solid reasons to back him up as being my "favorite" as well.)



From my lifetime? Probably Bill Clinton, he did a fantastic job with the economy and what not. As for the others, they've been complete shit.



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Theodore Roosevelt.

His conservation work helped make the Park and Forest system what it is today (hopefully future presidents start making a bigger deal out of protecting our natural wonders again), not to mention the tons of other amazing things he did.



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Nixon is often too unsung, despite being fairly racist and curmudgeony.



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I'll throw in for Clinton as well, from what I understand, a lot of US citizen's don't like him. For a guy who made everyone richer, I've no idea why. One of the best US presidents in years and ruled a nation generally at peace.



Hmm, pie.

haxxiy said:
Baryonyx said:

Obama, cause he tries to atleast help a country with *Obamacare* But it is a system that works with several countries around the world. It gives free education, free health care etc etc. when the system is properly up and running. It's the republicans i fear in US. they control it all.. the president is just a face to satisfy *free will*


Free?

Yeah, free. Because money grow on trees.

The US has a collapsing middle class, the super rich getting away with the money, and a bulging underclass build on cheap immigrant labor tied to the minimum wage or even less. This spells disaster for any system trying to emulate scandinavian or canadian welfare, and these issues are not likely to be solved even on the long term.

Maybe what the US needs is a strong middle ground on its polarized politics. Lest I remind you to turn a  steering wheel on a single direction is likely to have you going around in circles very soon...

OT - Andrew Jackson. He killed the bank.  Also, Lincoln and Kennedy.


The popular conspiracy theory of Lincoln fighting the "Civil War" is proven to be false. When he was just a Representative for Illinois, he strongly backed his party's (Whig) economic policies. Such as internal improvements, high protecionist tariffs, and a national bank. Lincoln's mentor was former Senator Henry Clay, who advocated for a national bank during his entire career. One of the legislations Lincoln passed during his presidency, was the "National Bank Act". Which nationalized state banks for further centralized control, mostly to issue Lincoln's greenback currency. Not unlike any central banking system.

John F. Kennedy wanting to "End the Fed" was also a myth. Executive Order 11110 intended to do the opposite of the general misconcieved perception of its purpose. It was going to replace silver certificates with federal bank notes, thus expanding the Federal Reserve's control of the money supply. John F. Kennedy was Keynesian through and through, even creating his "New Frontier" program to expand welfare. Like Lincoln, he was a great admirer of Henry Clay. One of JFK's favorite president was James Madison, who chartered for the creation of the second national bank.

JFK and Lincoln can be some of your favorite U.S. presidents for all I care. But the myth about the supposed "TEH BANKERZ KILLED JFK AND LINCOLN" needs to be clarified, it wasn't the sole reason behind their assassination.



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