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TruckOSaurus on 02 September 2014
Seece said:

It's not 2.1m either. Before even talking about WiiU being overtracked. (unless you think there is 60k on shelves end of June outside of Japan.) Shipments ultimately mean whether a console is in the lead or not.

The gap (sold) is around 1.7m IMO, maybe less.

I forgot you had zero faith in VGC numbers (which is strange coming from a VGC Writer but I digress). Do you think the XBO will make up the 1.7m gap between now and December 31st?



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WhiteEaglePL on 02 September 2014
Seece said:
WhiteEaglePL said:
ShyGuy322 said:
I don't understand why people think the XB1 is going to sell like crazy this holiday. It had a nice launch but sales have been abysmal since then, even after Titanfall and a 25% price cut. There just isn't much consumer interest in it outside of NA, a market it is losing.



Cod Halo, and Fifa in EU.

 

However In a recent thread I read "ps3,360 U not late bloomers" it stated that Novemeber and december contributed to 1.6 Million sales of the Wii U on basically just Super Mario 3D World. - which many siad it did worse than expected, and it did not have a bundle.

 

This year there is abundle with that and Nintendo Land starting Sept/Oct (cant remember) and surely will continue to sell in November.  Nov/Dec will have Smash Bros (if bundle then better) and Amiibo. Then Toad and Sonic as this year's "helper" titles that won't sell amazingly but decently.  XBO to overtake the U will need to do better than U in October , and I think it's obvious Sept is Xbo's win over the Wii U.

 

MK8 will still have bundles (with NintyLand now in the USA) and even alone will prove to be a BIG system seller to aid Smash Bros and the Wii U.Therefore I am predicting 2.7 Million sold in those two months this year, and I don't think Halo and Cod can do that for the XBO.

Funny thing is, XB1 has shown it can pull those numbers, and WiiU hasn't.

You're way overpredicting what WiiU can do in Japan.

I was talking about Global sales. And ussally I actually underpredict in general, with the worst case being the sales of MK8 and it's impact, actually.

Also, Nintendo could have easily shipped more.....



swii26 on 02 September 2014

Hard to say but I'd think by 2017 we would probably be getting info if not a release date for a new console



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Seece on 02 September 2014
TruckOSaurus said:
Seece said:

It's not 2.1m either. Before even talking about WiiU being overtracked. (unless you think there is 60k on shelves end of June outside of Japan.) Shipments ultimately mean whether a console is in the lead or not.

The gap (sold) is around 1.7m IMO, maybe less.

I forgot you had zero faith in VGC numbers (which is strange coming from a VGC Writer but I digress). Do you think the XBO will make up the 1.7m gap between now and December 31st?

So you're going to believe them even with the facts I just put in front of you??

60k on shelves end of June outside of Japan. You actually believe that? lol

Yes I do. I don't see Japan doing well enough for WiiU to offset US and European sales for XB1, which will get better going forward.



 

Mr Khan on 02 September 2014
vivster said:
Seece said:
Yet another one of these threads that is going to look super silly in a matter of weeks.

WiiU won't be ahead ever again come this holiday.

So you're saying X1 will close the 2m gap by the end of this year?

Overestimating the power of a remake box set, handily, at least vis-a-vis Smash Brothers.

I changed the title to something less loud.



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TruckOSaurus on 02 September 2014
Seece said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I forgot you had zero faith in VGC numbers (which is strange coming from a VGC Writer but I digress). Do you think the XBO will make up the 1.7m gap between now and December 31st?

So you're going to believe them even with the facts I just put in front of you??

60k on shelves end of June outside of Japan. You actually believe that? lol

Yes I do. I don't see Japan doing well enough for WiiU to offset US and European sales for XB1, which will get better going forward.

I actually don't care enough about the numbers to search beyond what's on VGC but thanks for answering the question.



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Seece on 02 September 2014
Mr Khan said:
vivster said:
Seece said:
Yet another one of these threads that is going to look super silly in a matter of weeks.

WiiU won't be ahead ever again come this holiday.

So you're saying X1 will close the 2m gap by the end of this year?

Overestimating the power of a remake box set, handily, at least vis-a-vis Smash Brothers.

I changed the title to something less loud.

Coupled with third party support and an actual audience to target at. Something XB1 has shown it can do (Launch, Titanfall period) XB1 sells crap when it has nothing going on, but WiiU has sold poorly (consistantly) throughout its whole life no matter what has been put on the table.





 

Seece on 02 September 2014
TruckOSaurus said:
Seece said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I forgot you had zero faith in VGC numbers (which is strange coming from a VGC Writer but I digress). Do you think the XBO will make up the 1.7m gap between now and December 31st?

So you're going to believe them even with the facts I just put in front of you??

60k on shelves end of June outside of Japan. You actually believe that? lol

Yes I do. I don't see Japan doing well enough for WiiU to offset US and European sales for XB1, which will get better going forward.

I actually don't care enough about the numbers to search beyond what's on VGC but thanks for answering the question.

That I don't blindly believe in whatever is put in front of me? That's what you're suggesting I do. Like that you don't admit 60k on shelves for US and Europe is ridiuclous



 

WhiteEaglePL on 02 September 2014

I think it will either happen second half 2015 or 2016.



ethomaz on 02 September 2014

I said January of this year after the strong Xbone launch and I will repeat.

Xbone won't outsell Wii U until Nintendo announces the Wii U's successor.

The sales of this holidays will drop compared with last year same period... and first semester of 2015 it will tank (way lower than this year sales).

 

BTW Xbone shipments for June 30 is less than 5.7 million... I won't be surprise if it won't reach 7 million shipped at September 30 (likely 6.5m)... sales are right now below 5 million but close to reach it.

 

BTW Wii U is ~300k overtracked here... I just don't know where.