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Daughter deserved whips 4 33.33%
 
Daughter deserved punishi... 1 8.33%
 
Daughter deserved a talking to at most. 2 16.67%
 
Bad parenting. 4 33.33%
 
Obama's fault/See results 1 8.33%
 
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fireburn95 on 03 May 2014
SamuelRSmith said:
Any kind of violence against a child is wrong.

Frankly, if you use any kind of physical punishment against a child, you're a monster. If you resort to any kind of aggression (such as shouting), you're probably a bad parent.

Once it gets to teenage years, things are different. But children are a no-go.


I reckon a slap is ok, with your palm. Punching, repeat slapping or whipping should be illegal everywhere. 

She is a terrible parent though.



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Jay520 on 03 May 2014

SamuelRSmith said:


Frankly, if you use any kind of physical punishment against a child, you're a monster. 


Why do you believe this?



Barenziah on 03 May 2014

both pics and punishment vid gets us perverts hard so win,win i guess



  

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SamuelRSmith on 03 May 2014
Jay520 said:

SamuelRSmith said:

 
Frankly, if you use any kind of physical punishment against a child, you're a monster. 


Why do you believe this?


http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201309/research-spanking-it-s-bad-all-kids

Most importantly:

  • Spanking destroys mental health.
  • Spanking increases delinquency and criminal behavior.
"Across the board, people who’d experienced physical punishment were more likely to experience nearly every type of mental illness examined. Their risk of mood disorders, including depression and mania, was 1.5 times greater than people who hadn’t been slapped or grabbed. The risk of depression alone was 1.4 times greater, which was the same rate for anxiety. People who’d been physically punished were 1.6 times more likely to abuse alcohol, and 1.5 times more likely to abuse drugs."


ice on 03 May 2014

I would never do that, personally I think I would've had a talk with her instead. Violence isn't the answer people!



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Jay520 on 03 May 2014
SamuelRSmith said:


http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201309/research-spanking-it-s-bad-all-kids

Most importantly:

  • Spanking destroys mental health.
  • Spanking increases delinquency and criminal behavior.
"Across the board, people who’d experienced physical punishment were more likely to experience nearly every type of mental illness examined. Their risk of mood disorders, including depression and mania, was 1.5 times greater than people who hadn’t been slapped or grabbed. The risk of depression alone was 1.4 times greater, which was the same rate for anxiety. People who’d been physically punished were 1.6 times more likely to abuse alcohol, and 1.5 times more likely to abuse drugs."

That tells us about the act of spanking itself, not the motivations of the spanker (which is what's relevant for determining if one is a "monster").

Your post seems to have had moral implications, not practical ones.



SamuelRSmith on 03 May 2014
Jay520 said:

That tells us about the act of spanking itself, not the motivations of the spanker (which is what's relevant for determining if one is a "monster").

The negative consequences on mental development of the child caused by spanking are great, which results in more spanking incidents in the future. Combine that with the fact that there are alternate approaches to dealing with these situations which have the same immediate effect with less developmental damage, and it becomes pretty clear that spanking is an unjustifiable act.

Now that we've established that spanking is unjustifiable in terms of its costs and benefits, and we know that it is an act of aggression (as, after all, it causes harm), we can state that the act of spanking is unjustifiable aggression.

Unjustifiable aggression is a violation of the non-aggression moral principle. Therefore, it is an immoral act. Immoral acts are monstrous acts, and those who perform monstrous acts are monstrous.



Jay520 on 03 May 2014
SamuelRSmith said:

The negative consequences on mental development of the child caused by spanking are great, which results in more spanking incidents in the future. Combine that with the fact that there are alternate approaches to dealing with these situations which have the same immediate effect with less developmental damage, and it becomes pretty clear that spanking is an unjustifiable act.

Now that we've established that spanking is unjustifiable in terms of its costs and benefits, and we know that it is an act of aggression (as, after all, it causes harm), we can state that the act of spanking is unjustifiable aggression.

Unjustifiable aggression is a violation of the non-aggression moral principle. Therefore, it is an immoral act. Immoral acts are monstrous acts, and those who perform monstrous acts are monstrous.


Not quite. The consequences of an action alone are not enough to imply the moral character of the actor.