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MoHasanie on 30 May 2013

There are a lot of great games in the Xbox Live arcade and I don't expect that to change in the future even without the support of many indie developers.



    

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DanneSandin on 30 May 2013
Zizzla_Rachet said:
DanneSandin said:
Mad55 said:
DanneSandin said:
Mad55 said:
DanneSandin said:
Lololol! No.

you think their lying?

I don't think they actually care. If they wanted the indies they wouldn't make it so damn hard for indies to publish on the Xboner. Just look at what Sony and Nintendo are doing - THAT'S how it's done. If you want indie this gen you better stay away from MicroSoft.

While Microsoft approach to idies isn't as good as Nintendo's new method I don't think they will have a lack of good indie games for the Xbox one but eh.

Considering how the indie community have reacted to the Xboner I'd say you better get another console if you wanna play those kind of games. Sure, Xboner WILL get indies, just not as many as PS4 or Wii U I think.

The way I see it..it's just like when Netflix went on 360....Every Sony fan said it was not important..Now Sony claims PS3 is the best platform for Netflix....

See what I did there....ok you just let me know

I just don't see how xbla will be able to compete against PS4 and Wii U; Sony and Nintendo has made it so much easier for indies to publish games on their consoles. I think we all can agree that Sony/Nintendo has better deals for indies than MS, no?



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DanneSandin on 30 May 2013
Zizzla_Rachet said:
DanneSandin said:
DanneSandin said:

Lololol! No.

User was warned for this post - Kantor

Since I got moderated by this I will go more indepth why indies won't do good on Xboner; It's quite obvious that M$ is going after the dudebro market (with all the sports games and CoD: Ghosts), and they ain't interested in indie games. The second reason is that indie devs needs a publisher to get a game out on xbla - and that's just hurting indie devs, not helping them in anyway.

If you're a indie dev you best go to Sony or Nintendo; there you can publish your own game (without a publisher) and you can set your own pricing. If M$ had their way the indie market would dry up and die, and I've already diven the reasons above. M$ seem to be all about Dudebros and casuals (Kinect) this time around. That's sad.

so If MS is all about "dudebros" and "Casual" what is PS4 going for?

your wrong...XBox Live had the Community games channel for inde to self publish..

The PS4 is for gamers, you know, those who bought PS1 and PS2?

Is that community transferring to Xboner? Will indies be able to self publish there? As I understand it, they won't - but I could be wrong.



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DanneSandin on 30 May 2013
yo_john117 said:
DanneSandin said:
DanneSandin said:

Lololol! No.

User was warned for this post - Kantor

Since I got moderated by this I will go more indepth why indies won't do good on Xboner; It's quite obvious that M$ is going after the dudebro market (with all the sports games and CoD: Ghosts), and they ain't interested in indie games. The second reason is that indie devs needs a publisher to get a game out on xbla - and that's just hurting indie devs, not helping them in anyway.

If you're a indie dev you best go to Sony or Nintendo; there you can publish your own game (without a publisher) and you can set your own pricing. If M$ had their way the indie market would dry up and die, and I've already diven the reasons above. M$ seem to be all about Dudebros and casuals (Kinect) this time around. That's sad.

Microsoft's policy hasn't changed, yet we have seen plenty of indie games on the 360. They can complain about it all they want but in the end it boils down to money, and that is something that can be made quite easily when they make games for XBLA. 

I'm not saying Microsoft's policy on this issue is good, but it never stopped indie developers from making games for MS's systems before and it won't stop them now.

I'm pretty sure it won't be harder to make money on the PS4 than on the Xbox, no?

What I'm saying is that there are more options now, better options, so I'm pretty confident we'll see more indie games on PS4 relative to Xbox.



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Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

DanneSandin on 30 May 2013
sales2099 said:
DanneSandin said:
DanneSandin said:

Lololol! No.

User was warned for this post - Kantor

Since I got moderated by this I will go more indepth why indies won't do good on Xboner; It's quite obvious that M$ is going after the dudebro market (with all the sports games and CoD: Ghosts), and they ain't interested in indie games. The second reason is that indie devs needs a publisher to get a game out on xbla - and that's just hurting indie devs, not helping them in anyway.

If you're a indie dev you best go to Sony or Nintendo; there you can publish your own game (without a publisher) and you can set your own pricing. If M$ had their way the indie market would dry up and die, and I've already diven the reasons above. M$ seem to be all about Dudebros and casuals (Kinect) this time around. That's sad.

XBLA is filled with variety that more then offsets the retail stereotypes.Seriously....every year it gets creative and innovative games in multiple genres.

bros don't play Minecraft, Fez, Battleblock theatre......

I just don't see how xbla will be able to compete against PS4 and Wii U; Sony and Nintendo has made it so much easier for indies to publish games on their consoles. I think we all can agree that Sony/Nintendo has better deals for indies than MS, no?



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Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

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sales2099 on 30 May 2013
DanneSandin said:
sales2099 said:

XBLA is filled with variety that more then offsets the retail stereotypes.Seriously....every year it gets creative and innovative games in multiple genres.

bros don't play Minecraft, Fez, Battleblock theatre......

I just don't see how xbla will be able to compete against PS4 and Wii U; Sony and Nintendo has made it so much easier for indies to publish games on their consoles. I think we all can agree that Sony/Nintendo has better deals for indies than MS, no?

Talk is cheap. paper isn't practise. Fact is every year XBLA delievers. PSN is catching up, but XBLA hasn't changed.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

yo_john117 on 30 May 2013
DanneSandin said:
yo_john117 said:
DanneSandin said:

Since I got moderated by this I will go more indepth why indies won't do good on Xboner; It's quite obvious that M$ is going after the dudebro market (with all the sports games and CoD: Ghosts), and they ain't interested in indie games. The second reason is that indie devs needs a publisher to get a game out on xbla - and that's just hurting indie devs, not helping them in anyway.

If you're a indie dev you best go to Sony or Nintendo; there you can publish your own game (without a publisher) and you can set your own pricing. If M$ had their way the indie market would dry up and die, and I've already diven the reasons above. M$ seem to be all about Dudebros and casuals (Kinect) this time around. That's sad.

Microsoft's policy hasn't changed, yet we have seen plenty of indie games on the 360. They can complain about it all they want but in the end it boils down to money, and that is something that can be made quite easily when they make games for XBLA. 

I'm not saying Microsoft's policy on this issue is good, but it never stopped indie developers from making games for MS's systems before and it won't stop them now.

I'm pretty sure it won't be harder to make money on the PS4 than on the Xbox, no?

What I'm saying is that there are more options now, better options, so I'm pretty confident we'll see more indie games on PS4 relative to Xbox.

I never implied that it would be harder to make money on the PS4. I'm just saying that the money is there for anyone who puts their work in to release a game to XBLA. I forsee plenty of indie titles on both the PS4 and One.



DanneSandin on 30 May 2013
sales2099 said:
DanneSandin said:
sales2099 said:
 

XBLA is filled with variety that more then offsets the retail stereotypes.Seriously....every year it gets creative and innovative games in multiple genres.

bros don't play Minecraft, Fez, Battleblock theatre......

I just don't see how xbla will be able to compete against PS4 and Wii U; Sony and Nintendo has made it so much easier for indies to publish games on their consoles. I think we all can agree that Sony/Nintendo has better deals for indies than MS, no?

Talk is cheap. paper isn't practise. Fact is every year XBLA delievers. PSN is catching up, but XBLA hasn't changed.

What, and you expect this status quo to remain for all eternity? It'll never change?



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Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

DanneSandin on 30 May 2013
yo_john117 said:
DanneSandin said:
yo_john117 said:
DanneSandin said:

Since I got moderated by this I will go more indepth why indies won't do good on Xboner; It's quite obvious that M$ is going after the dudebro market (with all the sports games and CoD: Ghosts), and they ain't interested in indie games. The second reason is that indie devs needs a publisher to get a game out on xbla - and that's just hurting indie devs, not helping them in anyway.

If you're a indie dev you best go to Sony or Nintendo; there you can publish your own game (without a publisher) and you can set your own pricing. If M$ had their way the indie market would dry up and die, and I've already diven the reasons above. M$ seem to be all about Dudebros and casuals (Kinect) this time around. That's sad.

Microsoft's policy hasn't changed, yet we have seen plenty of indie games on the 360. They can complain about it all they want but in the end it boils down to money, and that is something that can be made quite easily when they make games for XBLA. 

I'm not saying Microsoft's policy on this issue is good, but it never stopped indie developers from making games for MS's systems before and it won't stop them now.

I'm pretty sure it won't be harder to make money on the PS4 than on the Xbox, no?

What I'm saying is that there are more options now, better options, so I'm pretty confident we'll see more indie games on PS4 relative to Xbox.

I never implied that it would be harder to make money on the PS4. I'm just saying that the money is there for anyone who puts their work in to release a game to XBLA. I forsee plenty of indie titles on both the PS4 and One.

I forsee indie games on xbla as well, but I'd expect most of them being released on PS4 and/or Wii U. I don't think xbox will have the most indie games this gen.



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Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

yo_john117 on 30 May 2013
DanneSandin said:
yo_john117 said:
DanneSandin said:

I'm pretty sure it won't be harder to make money on the PS4 than on the Xbox, no?

What I'm saying is that there are more options now, better options, so I'm pretty confident we'll see more indie games on PS4 relative to Xbox.

I never implied that it would be harder to make money on the PS4. I'm just saying that the money is there for anyone who puts their work in to release a game to XBLA. I forsee plenty of indie titles on both the PS4 and One.

I forsee indie games on xbla as well, but I'd expect most of them being released on PS4 and/or Wii U. I don't think xbox will have the most indie games this gen.

Aye, I think that's how it will end up being next gen.

 

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