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Should rich people pay more for traffic fines?

Yes 29 46.77%
 
No 33 53.23%
 
Total:62
Max King of the Wild said:
I'd like to know what fine is 100 dollars. My last fine was 450 dollars for speeding 60 in a 45. On top of that me and my wife make under 18k a year and are both fulltime students and we cant even get on food stamps. If you think the courts will take something into consideration more leniently than social services you are dead fucking wrong. You can appeal to social services too but good luck. They never take you seriously.

Also there is no reason for the courts to have your IRS information. That is beyond invasive.



I had to pay a $100 fine for stopping in a no stop zone (school bus zone) on Texas Tech campus.



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This is way too simplistic a solution, which is not to say that traffic fines in themselves aren't excessively simplistic.

That said, making fines fractions of a person's income does make sense relative to the way law operates normally. I mean, when you give someone, say, 10 years of jail time, you're indirectly giving rich people a much harsher monetary fine because these years are much more valuable for them in terms of the money they'll make than for poor people.

Putting this in entirely monetary terms, someone making $1m a year is in a deficit of $10m thanks to a 10-year sentence. A person making $100k a year is in a deficit of $1m thanks to the same sentence. Therefore, in monetary terms, the law already operates by being harsher to rich people in other crimes. I don't see why someone would bring up "equality before the law" to argue against this change.



 

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YES. It's total bullcrap for a poor person like me to get a 200 dollar ticket for like not allowing a pedestrian cross the street. That's a lot of cash for me, while for richer people it doesn't matter; it truly is unfair.



           

kowenicki said:
sethnintendo said:
kowenicki said:
Stupid idea. And saying rich people just get away with all crimes as they can afford a lawyer is a very naive and silly statement. I do hate envy and jealousy, its so weak.

As for traffic offences, introduce a point system as in the UK. The fine is then secondary.

In the UK you are given 3 points for speeding, points expire after 3 years. Accumulate more than 12 points and you lose your license. Now that's a deterrent.



I obviously didn't mean they get away with all crimes. They do get away with more than some one who can't afford a good defense. Also, I'm not jealous. Try not to talk down on me because in reality you would be looking up to talk to me.


Lol, get you, big man...

Now why don't you deal with my actual point.  Aren't we talking about the best deterrent here... not a revenue generator.  The point system works.



A point system probably is the most effective. I wasn't aware Texas had one since I've only had two speeding tickets in the past 12 years but apparently Texas lays down heavy fines for going over the total. Perhaps those fines should be income based because they could cause a poor person to become broke.

http://www.dmv.org/tx-texas/point-system.php



Max King of the Wild said:


Also there is no reason for the courts to have your IRS information. That is beyond invasive.


If you are refering to what I wrote, well courts have not much to do with the process. Its a centralized system which will send the fine to the person who owns the car based on a license plate and its all pretty automatic. Courts get into the game if you have complaints. And actually only get the data for a process if its even necessary. You have a certain amount of time to react then its accepted. Nobody sees your data. Just the result and I am not even sure If anyone even sees the letter.