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sunK1D on 12 January 2013
pezus said:
Nsanity said:
Somini said:
Nsanity said:
NintendoPie said:
slowmo said:

So it outsold it for the other 5 years, doesn't really change my point which you side stepped because I was right.

In others the PS3 outsells by a fair margin it is comparable with the reverse in the US.  Whether you like it or not Japan is the difference between the 2 consoles, pure and simple.  I didn't say ignore where the PS3 sells well, I pointed out one regions clear dislike of the Xbox brand which is a completely different trend to the rest of the globe that skews the figures.  

Well then Microsoft should work on Japan to try to get them interested.

It's not Sony's fault that their console is actually performing good in Japan. You can't just count out a region because it "skews" numbers.

360 will never succed in japan for obvious reasons.

Just as obvious as the reason why the PS3 can't outsell the 360 in the US.

Except the PS3 as well as its predecessors have sold millions of software and hardware in the US.

360 too in Japan...USA is just a far bigger market. The USA's preference for the 360 is just as obvious as Japan's preference for PS3. No matter how hard Sony tried, they couldn't outsell 360 for more than a few weeks there. They dropped the price by $100 there and released a slimmer, sexier model for christ's sake, yet their lead only lasted a few weeks. 

BUT, does that mean we shouldn't count USA because it "unfairly" picks 360 over PS3 by almost 2:1, despite PS3 outselling them in the rest of the world easily? The simple answer here is "no", but if you say "no" to this you also have to realize that not counting Japan at the same time makes you a hypocrite.


Numbers speak for themselves.

JP

X360 = ~1.5K

PS3 = ~50K

NA

X360 = 150k

PS3 ~90K

 

There IS obviously a market for the PS3 in NA but there IS NOT one for the X360 in Japan.

MS has to do with 2 markets whereas Sony has 3. Anyone at this point blaming MS for failing in Japan need to learn a thing or two about cultural differences.

NA is MS' hometurf but the general population is just as open to foreigners. Can't say the same about JP.



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LivingMetal on 12 January 2013
sunK1D said:
pezus said:
Nsanity said:
Somini said:
Nsanity said:
NintendoPie said:
slowmo said:

So it outsold it for the other 5 years, doesn't really change my point which you side stepped because I was right.

In others the PS3 outsells by a fair margin it is comparable with the reverse in the US.  Whether you like it or not Japan is the difference between the 2 consoles, pure and simple.  I didn't say ignore where the PS3 sells well, I pointed out one regions clear dislike of the Xbox brand which is a completely different trend to the rest of the globe that skews the figures.  

Well then Microsoft should work on Japan to try to get them interested.

It's not Sony's fault that their console is actually performing good in Japan. You can't just count out a region because it "skews" numbers.

360 will never succed in japan for obvious reasons.

Just as obvious as the reason why the PS3 can't outsell the 360 in the US.

Except the PS3 as well as its predecessors have sold millions of software and hardware in the US.

360 too in Japan...USA is just a far bigger market. The USA's preference for the 360 is just as obvious as Japan's preference for PS3. No matter how hard Sony tried, they couldn't outsell 360 for more than a few weeks there. They dropped the price by $100 there and released a slimmer, sexier model for christ's sake, yet their lead only lasted a few weeks. 

BUT, does that mean we shouldn't count USA because it "unfairly" picks 360 over PS3 by almost 2:1, despite PS3 outselling them in the rest of the world easily? The simple answer here is "no", but if you say "no" to this you also have to realize that not counting Japan at the same time makes you a hypocrite.


Numbers speak for themselves.

JP

X360 = ~1.5K

PS3 = ~50K

NA

X360 = 150k

PS3 ~90K

 

There IS obviously a market for the PS3 in NA but there IS NOT one for the X360 in Japan.

MS has to do with 2 markets whereas Sony has 3. Anyone at this point blaming MS for failing in Japan need to learn a thing or two about cultural differences.

NA is MS' hometurf but the general population is just as open to foreigners. Can't say the same about JP.


Microsoft is still competing in the console market in Japan.  Whether it's ones interpretation that there is a market or not in a certain region, it's a fact that Microsoft is still pushing and marketing the Xbox 360 in Japan.  So it's legit enough for them to not pull the Xbox 360 out of Japan.  So it counts.  To make excuses and cherry pick the situation to favor your console just shows how sales matter more than the hobby of console gaming.  And this applies to all who are doing this in this thread as well as others.  So is seems it really matters whether or not the PS3 ends up being second regardless of where we are that gen.  So if something doesn't matter to you, don't bring attention to the situation.  Obviously, it matters. A lot.



Nsanity on 12 January 2013
pezus said:
Nsanity said:
Somini said:
Nsanity said:
NintendoPie said:
slowmo said:

So it outsold it for the other 5 years, doesn't really change my point which you side stepped because I was right.

In others the PS3 outsells by a fair margin it is comparable with the reverse in the US.  Whether you like it or not Japan is the difference between the 2 consoles, pure and simple.  I didn't say ignore where the PS3 sells well, I pointed out one regions clear dislike of the Xbox brand which is a completely different trend to the rest of the globe that skews the figures.  

Well then Microsoft should work on Japan to try to get them interested.

It's not Sony's fault that their console is actually performing good in Japan. You can't just count out a region because it "skews" numbers.

360 will never succed in japan for obvious reasons.

Just as obvious as the reason why the PS3 can't outsell the 360 in the US.

Except the PS3 as well as its predecessors have sold millions of software and hardware in the US.

360 too in Japan...USA is just a far bigger market. The USA's preference for the 360 is just as obvious as Japan's preference for PS3. No matter how hard Sony tried, they couldn't outsell 360 for more than a few weeks there. They dropped the price by $100 there and released a slimmer, sexier model for christ's sake, yet their lead only lasted a few weeks. 

BUT, does that mean we shouldn't count USA because it "unfairly" picks 360 over PS3 by almost 2:1, despite PS3 outselling them in the rest of the world easily? The simple answer here is "no", but if you say "no" to this you also have to realize that not counting Japan at the same time makes you a hypocrite.

Your kidding right?



LivingMetal on 12 January 2013
Nsanity said:
pezus said:
Nsanity said:
Somini said:
Nsanity said:
NintendoPie said:
slowmo said:

So it outsold it for the other 5 years, doesn't really change my point which you side stepped because I was right.

In others the PS3 outsells by a fair margin it is comparable with the reverse in the US.  Whether you like it or not Japan is the difference between the 2 consoles, pure and simple.  I didn't say ignore where the PS3 sells well, I pointed out one regions clear dislike of the Xbox brand which is a completely different trend to the rest of the globe that skews the figures.  

Well then Microsoft should work on Japan to try to get them interested.

It's not Sony's fault that their console is actually performing good in Japan. You can't just count out a region because it "skews" numbers.

360 will never succed in japan for obvious reasons.

Just as obvious as the reason why the PS3 can't outsell the 360 in the US.

Except the PS3 as well as its predecessors have sold millions of software and hardware in the US.

360 too in Japan...USA is just a far bigger market. The USA's preference for the 360 is just as obvious as Japan's preference for PS3. No matter how hard Sony tried, they couldn't outsell 360 for more than a few weeks there. They dropped the price by $100 there and released a slimmer, sexier model for christ's sake, yet their lead only lasted a few weeks. 

BUT, does that mean we shouldn't count USA because it "unfairly" picks 360 over PS3 by almost 2:1, despite PS3 outselling them in the rest of the world easily? The simple answer here is "no", but if you say "no" to this you also have to realize that not counting Japan at the same time makes you a hypocrite.

Your kidding right?


It looks like Microsoft is still competing in the Japanese market.  So it counts.



scat398 on 12 January 2013
Nsanity said:
pezus said:
Nsanity said:
Somini said:
Nsanity said:
NintendoPie said:
slowmo said:

So it outsold it for the other 5 years, doesn't really change my point which you side stepped because I was right.

In others the PS3 outsells by a fair margin it is comparable with the reverse in the US.  Whether you like it or not Japan is the difference between the 2 consoles, pure and simple.  I didn't say ignore where the PS3 sells well, I pointed out one regions clear dislike of the Xbox brand which is a completely different trend to the rest of the globe that skews the figures.  

Well then Microsoft should work on Japan to try to get them interested.

It's not Sony's fault that their console is actually performing good in Japan. You can't just count out a region because it "skews" numbers.

360 will never succed in japan for obvious reasons.

Just as obvious as the reason why the PS3 can't outsell the 360 in the US.

Except the PS3 as well as its predecessors have sold millions of software and hardware in the US.

360 too in Japan...USA is just a far bigger market. The USA's preference for the 360 is just as obvious as Japan's preference for PS3. No matter how hard Sony tried, they couldn't outsell 360 for more than a few weeks there. They dropped the price by $100 there and released a slimmer, sexier model for christ's sake, yet their lead only lasted a few weeks. 

BUT, does that mean we shouldn't count USA because it "unfairly" picks 360 over PS3 by almost 2:1, despite PS3 outselling them in the rest of the world easily? The simple answer here is "no", but if you say "no" to this you also have to realize that not counting Japan at the same time makes you a hypocrite.

Your kidding right?

Actually it doesn't. Comparing Japan to us in sales numbers just doesn't make sense on any level.  Also us preference for 360 is not even close to the Japan market, but you already knew that.



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sunK1D on 12 January 2013

Credit where credit is due.
marketshare:
X360 has been ahead of the PS3 this whole gen despite being handicaped due to competing in one less market(JP) and the huge global Playstation brand awareness. Doesn't matter if MS finishes last or not, they have already beaten Sony this gen and this is FACT.

Credit where credit is due.
Gaming experience:
Sony gave gamers the best overall gaming experiences this generation with their exclusives.



Nsanity on 12 January 2013
scat398 said:
Nsanity said:
pezus said:
Nsanity said:
Somini said:
Nsanity said:
NintendoPie said:
slowmo said:

So it outsold it for the other 5 years, doesn't really change my point which you side stepped because I was right.

In others the PS3 outsells by a fair margin it is comparable with the reverse in the US.  Whether you like it or not Japan is the difference between the 2 consoles, pure and simple.  I didn't say ignore where the PS3 sells well, I pointed out one regions clear dislike of the Xbox brand which is a completely different trend to the rest of the globe that skews the figures.  

Well then Microsoft should work on Japan to try to get them interested.

It's not Sony's fault that their console is actually performing good in Japan. You can't just count out a region because it "skews" numbers.

360 will never succed in japan for obvious reasons.

Just as obvious as the reason why the PS3 can't outsell the 360 in the US.

Except the PS3 as well as its predecessors have sold millions of software and hardware in the US.

360 too in Japan...USA is just a far bigger market. The USA's preference for the 360 is just as obvious as Japan's preference for PS3. No matter how hard Sony tried, they couldn't outsell 360 for more than a few weeks there. They dropped the price by $100 there and released a slimmer, sexier model for christ's sake, yet their lead only lasted a few weeks. 

BUT, does that mean we shouldn't count USA because it "unfairly" picks 360 over PS3 by almost 2:1, despite PS3 outselling them in the rest of the world easily? The simple answer here is "no", but if you say "no" to this you also have to realize that not counting Japan at the same time makes you a hypocrite.

Your kidding right?

http://vgchartz.com/embeds/japan_totals.png?a=209

http://vgchartz.com/embeds/north_america_totals.png?a=156

Actually it doesn't. Comparing Japan to us in sales numbers just doesn't make sense on any level.  Also us preference for 360 is not even close to the Japan market, but you already knew that.

The numbers speak for themselves.



Nsanity on 12 January 2013

Here is an interesting bit at 5:06



LivingMetal on 12 January 2013
Nsanity said:
scat398 said:
Nsanity said:
pezus said:
Nsanity said:
Somini said:
Nsanity said:
NintendoPie said:
slowmo said:

So it outsold it for the other 5 years, doesn't really change my point which you side stepped because I was right.

In others the PS3 outsells by a fair margin it is comparable with the reverse in the US.  Whether you like it or not Japan is the difference between the 2 consoles, pure and simple.  I didn't say ignore where the PS3 sells well, I pointed out one regions clear dislike of the Xbox brand which is a completely different trend to the rest of the globe that skews the figures.  

Well then Microsoft should work on Japan to try to get them interested.

It's not Sony's fault that their console is actually performing good in Japan. You can't just count out a region because it "skews" numbers.

360 will never succed in japan for obvious reasons.

Just as obvious as the reason why the PS3 can't outsell the 360 in the US.

Except the PS3 as well as its predecessors have sold millions of software and hardware in the US.

360 too in Japan...USA is just a far bigger market. The USA's preference for the 360 is just as obvious as Japan's preference for PS3. No matter how hard Sony tried, they couldn't outsell 360 for more than a few weeks there. They dropped the price by $100 there and released a slimmer, sexier model for christ's sake, yet their lead only lasted a few weeks. 

BUT, does that mean we shouldn't count USA because it "unfairly" picks 360 over PS3 by almost 2:1, despite PS3 outselling them in the rest of the world easily? The simple answer here is "no", but if you say "no" to this you also have to realize that not counting Japan at the same time makes you a hypocrite.

Your kidding right?

http://vgchartz.com/embeds/japan_totals.png?a=209

http://vgchartz.com/embeds/north_america_totals.png?a=156

Actually it doesn't. Comparing Japan to us in sales numbers just doesn't make sense on any level.  Also us preference for 360 is not even close to the Japan market, but you already knew that.

The numbers speak for themselves.


And the numbers say that Microsoft is still selling and consumers are still buying the Xbox 360 in Japan.  So it counts.



Somini on 12 January 2013

The PS3 has almost always outsold the 360 on a weekly basis. The 360 had a 7 million lead before the PS3 was even launched as it had NO competitor and the PS3 still caught up to it. The 360's chance of winning was gone the moment the PS3 went slim.