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I'm not sure I understand this. What does it ban? Isn't it a bit redundant, since US law would be above everything anyway. I mean, if people use sharia law withing THE law, what's the problem?



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There are parts in Lorndon where some Muslim Fanatics are/were. enforcing Sharia law even though UK law would be above it. A ban would ensure the States law is the only law allowed to be enforced. As long as the ban doesn't affect affect the rights of Muslims to worship then it shouldn't really be considered to be descriminatory.



RedInker said:
There are parts in Lorndon where some Muslim Fanatics are/were. enforcing Sharia law even though UK law would be above it. A ban would ensure the States law is the only law allowed to be enforced. As long as the ban doesn't affect affect the rights of Muslims to worship then it shouldn't really be considered to be descriminatory.

But, if they broke THE law by enforcing Sharia law, they should just be arrested, right? How were they enforcing Sharia law above UK law?

What I mean is, it is already a requirement to follow THE law. It's already banned not to follow it.

I just don't quite get it.



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Not at all a fan of Muslim laws but this is such a perfect chance to make a potshot post about America... Hmm I'll refrain this time.

Anyways, don't really see the point, if the justice system worked properly, Muslim law(s) would (should) never matter in an American courthouse anyway.



Millenium said:
Not at all a fan of Muslim laws but this is such a perfect chance to make a potshot post about America... Hmm I'll refrain this time.

Anyways, don't really see the point, if the justice system worked properly, Muslim law(s) would (should) never matter in an American courthouse anyway.


The point of the legislation seems to be to just reinstate what is already on the books. If the people of Kansas were genuinely worried about this, the bill would help quell their worries, whether or not the legislation actually had any real effect.



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Troll_Whisperer said:
RedInker said:
There are parts in Lorndon where some Muslim Fanatics are/were. enforcing Sharia law even though UK law would be above it. A ban would ensure the States law is the only law allowed to be enforced. As long as the ban doesn't affect affect the rights of Muslims to worshipy. It then it shouldn't really be considered to be descriminatory.

But, if they broke THE law by enforcing Sharia law, they should just be arrested, right? How were they enforcing Sharia law above UK law?

What I mean is, it is already a requirement to follow THE law. It's already banned not to follow it.

I just don't quite get it.

Heres a link to the story. It's from The Sun but I'm sure several papers reported it.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3718799/London-suburb-put-under-Sharia-law.html

It's not allowed by UK law unless an individual recognises the authority of a sharia court or something like that.



RedInker said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
RedInker said:
There are parts in Lorndon where some Muslim Fanatics are/were. enforcing Sharia law even though UK law would be above it. A ban would ensure the States law is the only law allowed to be enforced. As long as the ban doesn't affect affect the rights of Muslims to worshipy. It then it shouldn't really be considered to be descriminatory.

But, if they broke THE law by enforcing Sharia law, they should just be arrested, right? How were they enforcing Sharia law above UK law?

What I mean is, it is already a requirement to follow THE law. It's already banned not to follow it.

I just don't quite get it.

Heres a link to the story. It's from The Sun but I'm sure several papers reported it.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3718799/London-suburb-put-under-Sharia-law.html

It's not allowed by UK law unless an individual recognises the authority of a sharia court or something like that.

Ok, it's The Sun, but I read the whole thing nevertheless.

Never does it say that they actually enforced Sharia law above UK law. It says they wanted to, but the council would still act against any act that would go against UK law, of course. Look at this paragraphs:

 

Yesterday Waltham Forest Council said it had removed the posters and was combing through CCTV footage to help police prosecute any offenders.

Council leader Chris Robbins said: “People shouldn’t get the wrong idea about our borough because a handful of small-minded idiots decided to deface our streets with ridiculous posters.”

 

What I mean is, the law is above Sharia law anyway, so this bill doesn't change anything.



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How does the State of Kansas reconcile Common Law?

Common Law isn't US Law.



SamuelRSmith said:
Millenium said:
Not at all a fan of Muslim laws but this is such a perfect chance to make a potshot post about America... Hmm I'll refrain this time.

Anyways, don't really see the point, if the justice system worked properly, Muslim law(s) would (should) never matter in an American courthouse anyway.


The point of the legislation seems to be to just reinstate what is already on the books. If the people of Kansas were genuinely worried about this, the bill would help quell their worries, whether or not the legislation actually had any real effect.

This would seem to throw out Common Law as well, since technically Common Law isn't US Law or Kansas Law.



Troll_Whisperer said:
RedInker said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
RedInker said:
There are parts in Lorndon where some Muslim Fanatics are/were. enforcing Sharia law even though UK law would be above it. A ban would ensure the States law is the only law allowed to be enforced. As long as the ban doesn't affect affect the rights of Muslims to worshipy. It then it shouldn't really be considered to be descriminatory.

But, if they broke THE law by enforcing Sharia law, they should just be arrested, right? How were they enforcing Sharia law above UK law?

What I mean is, it is already a requirement to follow THE law. It's already banned not to follow it.

I just don't quite get it.

Heres a link to the story. It's from The Sun but I'm sure several papers reported it.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3718799/London-suburb-put-under-Sharia-law.html

It's not allowed by UK law unless an individual recognises the authority of a sharia court or something like that.

Ok, it's The Sun, but I read the whole thing nevertheless.

Never does it say that they actually enforced Sharia law above UK law. It says they wanted to, but the council would still act against any act that would go against UK law, of course. Look at this paragraphs:

 

Yesterday Waltham Forest Council said it had removed the posters and was combing through CCTV footage to help police prosecute any offenders.

Council leader Chris Robbins said: “People shouldn’t get the wrong idea about our borough because a handful of small-minded idiots decided to deface our streets with ridiculous posters.”

 

What I mean is, the law is above Sharia law anyway, so this bill doesn't change anything.


another link. Ive not read it though. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16522447

The bill just re-enforces the fact that US/Kansas law is the only law that is true and that Sharia law shouldn't be considered when deciding divorce etc.