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Seece on 21 January 2012
Monges79 said:
Sony are the company of the big three that are hurting the most financially. I can definately see why they are not initially planning on revealing a new console. With their supposed 10 year cycle console plan, they should have released the PS4 last year. They have obviously abbandoned that plan, but of the big three, I could see them bowing out of the console race.

Don't think the fact they didn't release last year means they've abandonded the PS4. This gen is just unusually long regardless of financials worries (look at MS)



 

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Judgement-2012 on 21 January 2012

Very,very bad for a used to be king of electronics industry.
Hope they find a way to recover ,if not I expect the same result as kodak.



UncleScrooge on 22 January 2012

It's mainly a combination of these things that caused the trouble: Sony is selling its products on extremely small profit margins (or even at a loss when it comes to gaming systems) and the company doesn't have a focus but instead tries to break into every market. That may sound like Apple in 2012 but Apple actually has a core business which is computers - they simply use computers in new ways. Sony on the other hand doesn't really have a core business just a bulk of divisions that are just loosely connected.

That being said even though they can only blame themselves for the trouble they are in I wouldn't want Sony to opt out of either the handheld or the console market in the long run. Nintendo gets pretty slow when they don't have to worry about competition and I totally expect Microsoft to be even stronger next generation so there is a need for a company like Sony that stops Microsoft from becoming overly dominant in the long run.



TruckOSaurus on 22 January 2012
Seece said:
RolStoppable said:
You can sense the bias against Sony from the media. For Sony it's third-lowest, but for Panasonic they put a positive spin on it. Called it sixth-highest, even though its in the bottom half as well.

Sixth highest out of 10? Am I missing something here?

OT: Interesting financials coming up, wonder what they have forecast for the year ahead.

Sixth highest out of 10 is also the fifth lowest. So Panasonic is only two grades above Sony but sixth highest makes it sound much better.

OT: This topic is a wonderful die-hard fan detector. While regular fans and detractors of Sony comment on the sad financial situation of the company, die-hard fans complain about its placement in the forums.



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Seece on 22 January 2012
TruckOSaurus said:
Seece said:
RolStoppable said:
You can sense the bias against Sony from the media. For Sony it's third-lowest, but for Panasonic they put a positive spin on it. Called it sixth-highest, even though its in the bottom half as well.

Sixth highest out of 10? Am I missing something here?

OT: Interesting financials coming up, wonder what they have forecast for the year ahead.

Sixth highest out of 10 is also the fifth lowest. So Panasonic is only two grades above Sony but sixth highest makes it sound much better.

OT: This topic is a wonderful die-hard fan detector. While regular fans and detractors of Sony comment on the sad financial situation of the company, die-hard fans complain about its placement in the forums.

Top 5
10
9
8
7
6 - Panasonic


Bottom 5
5
4
3 - Sony
2
1

No?



 

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Kynes on 22 January 2012
Seece said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Seece said:
RolStoppable said:
You can sense the bias against Sony from the media. For Sony it's third-lowest, but for Panasonic they put a positive spin on it. Called it sixth-highest, even though its in the bottom half as well.

Sixth highest out of 10? Am I missing something here?

OT: Interesting financials coming up, wonder what they have forecast for the year ahead.

Sixth highest out of 10 is also the fifth lowest. So Panasonic is only two grades above Sony but sixth highest makes it sound much better.

OT: This topic is a wonderful die-hard fan detector. While regular fans and detractors of Sony comment on the sad financial situation of the company, die-hard fans complain about its placement in the forums.

Top 5
10
9
8
7
6 - Panasonic


Bottom 5
5
4
3 - Sony
2
1

No?

Panasonic in your scale would be at level nº 4, just one over Sony.



Seece on 22 January 2012

Kk I see now, thanks



 

Kangi on 22 January 2012

10 - Highest
9 - Second highest
8 - Third highest
7 - Fourth highest
6 - Fifth highest
5 - "Sixth highest"?
4 - Fourth lowest
3 - Third lowest
2 - Second lowest
1 - Lowest

That's where the issue lies. =p



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Kynes on 22 January 2012
RolStoppable said:
Kynes said:

Panasonic in your scale would be at level nº 4, just one over Sony.

No, it would be at 5, two spots above Sony.

It's unbelievable that you people have trouble with something so simple.


You're right. I feel dumb now :(