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Obieslut was a genius!!! Wii sales always had a limit? Yey or nay?

Wii sales always had a limit 28 20.14%
 
Ninty did not take advant... 22 15.83%
 
360 and PS3 became too competitive 12 8.63%
 
Wii seemed outdated 20 14.39%
 
crap thread is crap :( :( :( 39 28.06%
 
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RolStoppable said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

way to jump to conclusions there genius

I am one of those who think price plays a critical role in sales, especially in the current economy. But that is by no means the whole story. But denying it has no impact is down right wrong.

Price is not only about price cuts. Starting price matters too. If the xbox 360 and ps3 both had similar price ranges to the wii the wii would not be enjoying the same level of market share they are doing now.Heck we will probably see more evidence to support that when (and hopefully they will time these right cuz timing is also important) ps360 do a price cut in the future. Price dictates when some can buy products they want depending on the money they are capable of spending.

Actually wii got a price cut right? it still is lagging behind badly compared to the HD consoles in gaming content this year but it will see a nice boost. But keep in mind cheaper the product is already, less the effect will be.

Wii was a success because Ninty did many things (at least from the companys POV) right from the beginning of the gen. making a underpowered system so they can price it relatively lower was one of them

The Wii wasn't hot during the current economy, when this generation started the world was fine.

The Xbox 360 always was in a similar price range to the Wii, in the USA you could always get the Core model for $300 and in mainland Europe it was quite common in 2007 to see the Premium bundled with two games for €300 (not official, but big stores did it anyway in order to sell it somehow). Didn't help 360 sales all that much. If the PS3 had been in a similar price range from the getgo, the Wii would enjoy higher marketshare today. Much higher. It would have bankrupted Sony's gaming division with the PS3 being discontinued within a year and with a struggling 360 third parties would have had not much reason to continue making HD games, sunk costs or not.

Any future price cuts won't change the big picture. The Wii has run its course, it's not going to come back. If people don't want something, then price doesn't matter. This also works in reverse. If people really want something, then they are willing to pay a higher price than stores actually ask for. That could be seen when the Wii kept selling out in America. On ebay Wiis were commonly sold for around $350-400, at a time when the PS3 entry model was officially priced $400 (happened in July 2007). As you know, the 360 Premium was also priced that high. So what you are looking at is a situation where people were willing to pay $400 for a Wii, but not so much the 360 or PS3.

All this taken in consideration makes it weird to suggest that price was really a big reason for the Wii's success. It wasn't. It had the games people wanted to play and that is what matters the most. Today the Wii doesn't have any games at all, hence why its sales are nowhere near the level they were at its peak.


by 2006-2007 economy was already starting to go down under. And again, I hate repeating this to you, price IS a factor, 'a' not the biggest or anything. if you think a casual who walks into a store just to get a holiday gift for a kid will consider all the games coming out for it....well not sure what to think of that lol. Heck considering how lacking the number of good games have been on the wii (thanks to the 3rd parties ditiching it for the HD's) it should have been selling way way less in the past year.

and the argument was not whether ps3 COULD have sold for a lesser price because it couldn't as it packs way more than the wii. If they had just upgraded it a bit from the ps2, with ps2 sales still going strong and the brand name still fresh on the minds of consumers, they could have easily given a bigger competition in the early years for Ninty. But like I said, Ninty was smart, added motion control for the wow factors, made it affordable and cheaper in comparison, marketed it well and made few games to show off the tech to casuals. So like I said they did a lot of things right together to be so succcessful early on. But price did play a part, however significant it may have been, we may never know.

I would love to see Ninty come up with some out of this world tech (holograms! lol yea I wish) and price their console $500 and have many many great games from the start, no ports, and see how it sells in the long run. would be amusing to have this conversation then.



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I haven't heard that name in ages.



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even PS3 and XBOX360 seemed outdated now, imagine Wii...



Who?



It's just that simple.

many people predicted this. A lot of people predicted it would happened happen earlier though.



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M.U.G.E.N said:

can't believe people still think price doesn't matter >_> baffles me

Agreed. In the Wii's case though, it's not just the price being to high right now, but also the lack of quality games coming from Nintendo themselves. Usually Nintendo has a decent lineup of exclusives throughout the year for their systems. The Wii really hasn't seen that this year. Nintendo may surprise us at the E3 again with a slew of more exclusives, but they really needed a few during the Spring and Summer months as well. It doesn't help that a lot of their 3rd party games are crap. With a nice price cut and more exclusives just before the holidays, the Wii will once again surge and dominate the market at the end of the year. People keep forgetting that the Wii's biggest supporters are casual gamers. These casual gamers buy most of their systems and games during the holidays season.



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jonop said:

many people predicted this. A lot of people predicted it would happened happen earlier though.


Yeah.. it's pretty easy to predict. Same thing happened with the PS2. Sony had to leave it out there for another 5 years



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Price will be more of a factor in not buying the product then a factor in Buying a product.

Games will be a huge factor In wanting to buy  a system over price.  

Lack of software = no interest to buy the system no matter how cheep it is.

 

With a new price of 150$ and 2-3 good RPG games I can see the Wii getting a little life blown

into its sails.

 

2 things need to happen.

 

1. Interest to buy (game you would like to play)

2. Is it worth the asking price. (at 150$ I think thats still a bit high a price to pay to enjoy a few JRPG but hey they may get a few extra buyers they would have other wise not have gotten.)

 

 

 



Well I was saying the same thing as well all along, Once wii sales drop they will drop worse than the other 2.

Also I predicted all 3 consoles would end up round the 100 million mark, most ppl on this site predicted wii around 50% marketshare & PS360 split the other 50% at generation end. Though still a LONG way to go before generation end, the last generation is still going, since theyre manufacturing ps2's. I can definietly see a 33% split far more likely than 50-25-25, or do people disagree.



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 Bet with tbone51: Pokeon X & pokemon Y will not sell more than 8 million in 2013

 jarrod said:The Xbox360 or ps3 will not sell more than 75million units

July 2009 daveJ saidTrue the wii has a large lead now but by 2017 the most likely result will be 1. ps3 2. xbox360 3. wii <-- wii's successor launched in 2011 effectively killing sales of the wii

 2009 daveJ said: The wii will not break the 50% marketshare barrier it will go below the 40% marketshare barrier though in the future. VGChartz members: Impossible, youre an idiot that knows nothing about sales