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The Real Reason PSN Is Down


"Now, you can believe Sony's PR team which has kept you completely in the dark, or you can see the list of events above and come to your own conclusion."

According to the quote above by poster on Reddit named chesh420, who seems to be a moderator at PSX-Scene.com, the reason for the now five-day shutdown of the Playstation Network is due to an exploit of custom firmware known as Rebug. It essentially gives users the ability to turn a retail console into more or less a dev or debug console (like the ones we have to play PS3 titles before they are released).

Apparently, modders found out that Rebug can be used to allow modded PS3s to hook up to the PlayStation Network through a proxy server and some URL manipulation, as well as send fake credit card information to the network since Sony inherently trusts the dev-specific PSN to be safe. Of course, what happened then is rampant piracy, which Sony always freaks out about and has thus begun to rebuild all of its servers to prevent this runaround.

chesh420 bases this speculation on the fact that Rebug was released March 31, that hacking guides were posted on April 7, that PSN went down April 20, and that a recent patch for the dev PS3s has been released.

Notorious group Anonymous claims that they are not behind this attack.

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Ok, I've seen a bunch of speculation of why people think PSN is down, and I thought I should just post what the community knows in comparison to what Sony is telling everyone. The truth is, there was a new CFW (custom firmware) released known as Rebug (http://rebug.me). It essentially turns a retail console into a dev console (not fully, but gives you a lot of the same options that usually dev's only have access to). Anyway, this new CFW was quickly figured out by 3rd parties (not Rebug) to give CFW users access to the PSN network again via the dev networks. With a little manipulation of the URL's through a proxy server you could get your hacked console back online. Not that big of a deal, right? Well, it also turns out that some people over at NGU found out that you could provide fake CC# info and the authenticity of the information was never checked as you were on Sony's private developer PSN network (essentially a network that Sony trusted). What happened next was extreme piracy of PSN content. Sony realizing the issue here shut down the network. Now, before you go freaking out about the latest information posted about Kotaku, no ones personal information was accessible via this hack. Not to say they couldn't get it, but no one is admitting to it being available. Anyway, that's the real reason for the PSN downtime. Sony is now rebuilding all of it's PSN servers to be more secure and (hopefully) make sure the CFW users cannot get online anymore.

Edit #1: To those of you saying that this is speculation, you are correct. But, it is speculation based on a lot of facts and the outcome seems to make the most sense.
1. Rebug was released on 3/31/11.
2. First guides of how to use the dev network to get back on COD games on 4/3/11. 3. Word of "shady" sites finding a way to pirate PSN content via the dev networks on 4/7/11 (basing this on posts I had to delete on the website). 4. PSN goes down on 4/20/11

Now, you can believe Sony's PR team which has kept you completely in the dark, or you can see the list of events above and come to your own conclusion. Now, this isn't the first time Sony has fought back against the PS3 modders from getting on PSN. A couple of months ago we had a utility called f*ckPSN that changed the necessary header information that was being sent to Sony to allow modified consoles back online. We were able to use it for about a month. Then came the new TOS, the mass e-mail to PS3 customers, and software update 3.56 and 3.60. So, once again, yes this is all speculation, but it is speculation based on previous actions and known facts.

Edit #2: Mathieulh just mentioned that he has been in contact with someone that has official access to the SCE devnet servers and it was posted to them today that only 3.60+ debug firmwares will be allowed on the dev network anymore. All earlier versions will be cut. If you want to retain your access you need to contact Sony and upgrade to 3.60 debug firmware.

Edit #3: Ok, it looks like some various news sites have picked up this story and taken it out of context. Once again, this is all speculation and information gathered from various devs in the PS3 scene. It might very well not be the real reason PSN is down, but as the timeline fits, it's a reasonable explanation. Now, as to Rebug directly allowing this to happen, that's not the case at all. Different CFW's have had access to the dev network the whole time. This is not new news for people in the PS3 scene. It's what people have figured out what to do with the said network that has caused all the recent issues. Saying that Rebug is what did this is like saying a gun manufacturer is responsible for every death that happens with a gun.

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So does this explanation sound reasonable? 



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I dunno. Couldn't they just turn the feature off if that was the problem. Why would it affect Qriocity as well? It would seem awful dumb even to allow dev consoles to purchase differently than the consumers, And why would it take a week to fix the problem?



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

Grimes said:

I dunno. Couldn't they just turn the feature off if that was the problem. Why would it affect Qriocity as well? It would seem awful dumb even to allow dev consoles to download everything in the first place.


Good point; but maybe the method that was used on PSN with the modified PS3s also provided limited access to that service as well?  



No way i will believe this. It must be the evil Anon. they probably hacked this guys acount just to say that. I think geohot had a role in this too. He must have.



Either that's the reason or something like it. Those fucktard hackers couldn't hack shit even if their life depended on it, bunch of losers....I bet most of them couldn't hack their grandma's computer from the basement they live in...