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XxXProphecyXxX said:
Hradekal said:

Not mention, the majority of people that bought SOCOM 4 first day are the people that will buy any SOCOM game in hopes of a return to the series' roots. Nobody else will be attracted to this game besides SOCOM players, as its an extremely poor imitator of the competition. COD players will pass it over. And if the game doesn't cater to the hardcore base like it should have, I don't expect this game to have any sort of legs. Even if it sells 500k first week I'd be surprised to see 1 million lifetime. I say 800k lifetime, and it doesn't even deserve to sell that many. The only reason it will is desperate veterans to the series who will then spend the rest of the game's lifetime complaining on the official forums.


you wanna bet on that? MAG is a new IP that is online only with no co-op managed to sell 1m and you think socom 4 which has core followers and is a well knowed franchise will be lucky to reach 1m?

I'd be more than happy to take that bet way too easy.

Okay so back to my previous statement, MAG was a new ip that got more preorders than socom 4, socom 4 had more of the popularity and still got out pre-ordered by mag, and mag barely hit one million lifetime with a price cut, what makes you think socom 4 thats not even popular nowdays and not as popular as it was during the ps2 days gonna outsell mag and hit two million? it would be lucky to hit 1.5 million lifetime, Especially with all the competetion out there nowdays such as the modern day shooters, not to mention its metacritic scores are low. Not tryin to be a troll but it sounds like you really want these game to succeed, its not even considered a AAA title anymore. Besides the only reason it was succesful back then was not only did it cater to the vets, but it was like the ONLY shooter for ps2 at the time, besides that their was killzone that had just came out around 2003'ish and was a fresh new ip that needed time to build, so it wasnt as big back then as it is nowdays while socom " BACK THEN" was the shooter of ps2, even though KZ1 averaged 15,000 players online a day and for the ps2 days that was still a lot and finally shutdown the servers in 2008. Plus with all the other shooters that are out nowdays its not like every single person is just gonna up and drop every other shooter to play socom, especially the casuals. The market is flooded with tons of shooters. Even the cod players arent just gonna go cold turkey and quit cod to play Socom. If they wanna play cod then their gonna play cod.



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About 2 million.



Vekta said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
Hradekal said:

Not mention, the majority of people that bought SOCOM 4 first day are the people that will buy any SOCOM game in hopes of a return to the series' roots. Nobody else will be attracted to this game besides SOCOM players, as its an extremely poor imitator of the competition. COD players will pass it over. And if the game doesn't cater to the hardcore base like it should have, I don't expect this game to have any sort of legs. Even if it sells 500k first week I'd be surprised to see 1 million lifetime. I say 800k lifetime, and it doesn't even deserve to sell that many. The only reason it will is desperate veterans to the series who will then spend the rest of the game's lifetime complaining on the official forums.


you wanna bet on that? MAG is a new IP that is online only with no co-op managed to sell 1m and you think socom 4 which has core followers and is a well knowed franchise will be lucky to reach 1m?

I'd be more than happy to take that bet way too easy.

Okay so back to my previous statement, MAG was a new ip that got more preorders than socom 4, socom 4 had more of the popularity and still got out pre-ordered by mag, and mag barely hit one million lifetime with a price cut, what makes you think socom 4 thats not even popular nowdays and not as popular as it was during the ps2 days gonna outsell mag and hit two million? it would be lucky to hit 1.5 million lifetime, Especially with all the competetion out there nowdays such as the modern day shooters, not to mention its metacritic scores are low. Not tryin to be a troll but it sounds like you really want these game to succeed, its not even considered a AAA title anymore. Besides the only reason it was succesful back then was not only did it cater to the vets, but it was like the ONLY shooter for ps2 at the time, besides that their was killzone that had just came out around 2003'ish and was a fresh new ip that needed time to build, so it wasnt as big back then as it is nowdays while socom " BACK THEN" was the shooter of ps2, even though KZ1 averaged 15,000 players online a day and for the ps2 days that was still a lot and finally shutdown the servers in 2008. Plus with all the other shooters that are out nowdays its not like every single person is just gonna up and drop every other shooter to play socom, especially the casuals. The market is flooded with tons of shooters. Even the cod players arent just gonna go cold turkey and quit cod to play Socom. If they wanna play cod then their gonna play cod.

MAG had more pre-order because if you do you can have acess to the beta and play already(LIKE GEARS3) and no I dont really care what happens to socom since im not a fan of it IF YOU GO TO THE PRE ORDER PAGE I WAS WHINING ABOUT SOCOM4 GETTING MORE PRE ORDER THAN THE LIKES OF KZ3 WHICH IS WAY BETTER GAME.



XxXProphecyXxX said:
Vekta said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
Hradekal said:

Not mention, the majority of people that bought SOCOM 4 first day are the people that will buy any SOCOM game in hopes of a return to the series' roots. Nobody else will be attracted to this game besides SOCOM players, as its an extremely poor imitator of the competition. COD players will pass it over. And if the game doesn't cater to the hardcore base like it should have, I don't expect this game to have any sort of legs. Even if it sells 500k first week I'd be surprised to see 1 million lifetime. I say 800k lifetime, and it doesn't even deserve to sell that many. The only reason it will is desperate veterans to the series who will then spend the rest of the game's lifetime complaining on the official forums.


you wanna bet on that? MAG is a new IP that is online only with no co-op managed to sell 1m and you think socom 4 which has core followers and is a well knowed franchise will be lucky to reach 1m?

I'd be more than happy to take that bet way too easy.

Okay so back to my previous statement, MAG was a new ip that got more preorders than socom 4, socom 4 had more of the popularity and still got out pre-ordered by mag, and mag barely hit one million lifetime with a price cut, what makes you think socom 4 thats not even popular nowdays and not as popular as it was during the ps2 days gonna outsell mag and hit two million? it would be lucky to hit 1.5 million lifetime, Especially with all the competetion out there nowdays such as the modern day shooters, not to mention its metacritic scores are low. Not tryin to be a troll but it sounds like you really want these game to succeed, its not even considered a AAA title anymore. Besides the only reason it was succesful back then was not only did it cater to the vets, but it was like the ONLY shooter for ps2 at the time, besides that their was killzone that had just came out around 2003'ish and was a fresh new ip that needed time to build, so it wasnt as big back then as it is nowdays while socom " BACK THEN" was the shooter of ps2, even though KZ1 averaged 15,000 players online a day and for the ps2 days that was still a lot and finally shutdown the servers in 2008. Plus with all the other shooters that are out nowdays its not like every single person is just gonna up and drop every other shooter to play socom, especially the casuals. The market is flooded with tons of shooters. Even the cod players arent just gonna go cold turkey and quit cod to play Socom. If they wanna play cod then their gonna play cod.

MAG had more pre-order because if you do you can have acess to the beta and play already(LIKE GEARS3) and no I dont really care what happens to socom since im not a fan of it IF YOU GO TO THE PRE ORDER PAGE I WAS WHINING ABOUT SOCOM4 GETTING MORE PRE ORDER THAN THE LIKES OF KZ3 WHICH IS WAY BETTER GAME.

are you saying mag had pre-orders because of beta? will s4 had a beta and still didnt outdue mag in preorders, i can understand where your coming from though. the only thing im saying is that these socom fans keep saying " oh if confrontation can do a million than s4 can easily do it ", but what they fail to realize is that it took confrontation 3 years to hit that million mark even after a price cut, and then the next excuse the fans use is that, " confrontation was only online, while s4 is single player. co-op,and multiplayer so itll do more ", well for one thing socom was never really known for its single player, and it was all about its multiplayer component. So what makes them think all of a sudden its going to sell a shit ton copies because it has a single player again? besides the single player for s4 isnt even that good how people hype it up to be, and reviewers can back me up on that because most reviewers knocked off points for its sp, and then its Co-op component is only online with only repetitive missions. If Killzone 3 a AAA title that added split-screen co-op with a fantastic multiplayer with  a good clan ranking system, and a decent Sp ( imo more creative than s4's sp ), didnt do a  million its first week, what makes them think s4 is all of a sudden going to blow sales through the roof?  Most of the people that predicted socom 4 was going to do over half a million its first week even predicted that it was going to score 80 on the metacritic, and look how the metacritic turned out to be.



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No one said that Socom would sell a ton. Most psople said it sell 2mil or 3mil for the higher predictions. 

Your confidence is uncalled for. Sure it's not looking too good, but you can never be too sure. I've seen crazier things happen.



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Boutros said:

1.5-2 million.


yupp...same prediction like me...

hope it will do better though...