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ISP rates in USA are overpriced

I am satisfied with my ISP rate 22 16.79%
 
I am netural 22 16.79%
 
I am dissatisfied with my ISP 33 25.19%
 
I am getting raped by my ISP 54 41.22%
 
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FreeTalkLive said:
stopstopp said:

Just another example of how USA just keeps getting worse. Why America WHY???

And yes internet is way too expensive and slow compared to other countries. Lack of competition is strangling us, plus the government won't spend the money to at least get internet to people despite the obvious need for it.


It isn't the government's job to give people internet.  Also, people don't need internet.  This is at least true in the US.  Maybe you live or have been somewhere where one of the reasons the government exists is to give internet to people.  In the US, it's the job of people and private companies to work together to get internet.

Face it or not, the internet is becoming a needed part of today. There is so much information on the internet and many jobs use the internet more and more. People need the internet more and more to be a competing country. Saying we don't need it makes us less competitive in the world market, and right now the US needs to be competitive as we are falling behind in virtually everywhere.

Also, internet obviously isn't everywhere it needs to be, the government could at least set up some infrastructure as I think up to half americans don't even have it.



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flashpoint_1230 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
stopstopp said:

Just another example of how USA just keeps getting worse. Why America WHY???

And yes internet is way too expensive and slow compared to other countries. Lack of competition is strangling us, plus the government won't spend the money to at least get internet to people despite the obvious need for it.


It isn't the government's job to give people internet.  Also, people don't need internet.  This is at least true in the US.  Maybe you live or have been somewhere where one of the reasons the government exists is to give internet to people.  In the US, it's the job of people and private companies to work together to get internet.

No, it's not, but the private industry won't be able to roll out a faster broadband infrastructure alone. Not to mention, I doubt that other countries have so many competing ISPs (I can count 4 major competitors for the USA alone!) That's why the FCC is stepping in. Whether or not they will be successful is the question. It would be a very bad thing if the government just decided to step back and leave it alone. It could mean price hikes, or Netflix streaming could crash our insufficient broadband infrastructure. It is strange that we don't have anything better in place, though.


Why won't private industry be able to do it on it's own?  Though, if it wasn't possible, than perhaps it shouldn't be done at all?  The US government has a massive debt problem that is a far larger issue.

The FCC shouldn't be involved at all.

I'm certain Netflix isn't going to crash anything.



 

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stopstopp said:
FreeTalkLive said:
stopstopp said:

Just another example of how USA just keeps getting worse. Why America WHY???

And yes internet is way too expensive and slow compared to other countries. Lack of competition is strangling us, plus the government won't spend the money to at least get internet to people despite the obvious need for it.


It isn't the government's job to give people internet.  Also, people don't need internet.  This is at least true in the US.  Maybe you live or have been somewhere where one of the reasons the government exists is to give internet to people.  In the US, it's the job of people and private companies to work together to get internet.

Face it or not, the internet is becoming a needed part of today. There is so much information on the internet and many jobs use the internet more and more. People need the internet more and more to be a competing country. Saying we don't need it makes us less competitive in the world market, and right now the US needs to be competitive as we are falling behind in virtually everywhere.

Also, internet obviously isn't everywhere it needs to be, the government could at least set up some infrastructure as I think up to half americans don't even have it.

The US is falling behind because the government is too larger with too many rules and laws.  Additionally, it has too much debt from too much spending.  The solution is to remove many of the laws and cut the spending, not do the exact opposite and make things worse.



 

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FreeTalkLive said:
stopstopp said:
FreeTalkLive said:
stopstopp said:

Just another example of how USA just keeps getting worse. Why America WHY???

And yes internet is way too expensive and slow compared to other countries. Lack of competition is strangling us, plus the government won't spend the money to at least get internet to people despite the obvious need for it.


It isn't the government's job to give people internet.  Also, people don't need internet.  This is at least true in the US.  Maybe you live or have been somewhere where one of the reasons the government exists is to give internet to people.  In the US, it's the job of people and private companies to work together to get internet.

Face it or not, the internet is becoming a needed part of today. There is so much information on the internet and many jobs use the internet more and more. People need the internet more and more to be a competing country. Saying we don't need it makes us less competitive in the world market, and right now the US needs to be competitive as we are falling behind in virtually everywhere.

Also, internet obviously isn't everywhere it needs to be, the government could at least set up some infrastructure as I think up to half americans don't even have it.

The US is falling behind because the government is too larger with too many rules and laws.  Additionally, it has too much debt from too much spending.  The solution is to remove many of the laws and cut the spending, not do the exact opposite and make things worse.

Spending on things we need like for say internet and instead cutting off other things mean we don't have to raise the amount of spending to get some infrastructure. It only means we have to spend our money better.



FreeTalkLive said:
flashpoint_1230 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
stopstopp said:

Just another example of how USA just keeps getting worse. Why America WHY???

And yes internet is way too expensive and slow compared to other countries. Lack of competition is strangling us, plus the government won't spend the money to at least get internet to people despite the obvious need for it.


It isn't the government's job to give people internet.  Also, people don't need internet.  This is at least true in the US.  Maybe you live or have been somewhere where one of the reasons the government exists is to give internet to people.  In the US, it's the job of people and private companies to work together to get internet.

No, it's not, but the private industry won't be able to roll out a faster broadband infrastructure alone. Not to mention, I doubt that other countries have so many competing ISPs (I can count 4 major competitors for the USA alone!) That's why the FCC is stepping in. Whether or not they will be successful is the question. It would be a very bad thing if the government just decided to step back and leave it alone. It could mean price hikes, or Netflix streaming could crash our insufficient broadband infrastructure. It is strange that we don't have anything better in place, though.


Why won't private industry be able to do it on it's own?  Though, if it wasn't possible, than perhaps it shouldn't be done at all?  The US government has a massive debt problem that is a far larger issue.

The FCC shouldn't be involved at all.

I'm certain Netflix isn't going to crash anything.

Well, I just wonder how well American ISPs would be able to cooperate. If they could, then a broadband infrastructure could easily be rolled out, but I doubt that it will happen. The US does have a debt problem (I just took Econ., so you don't need to tell me), but it's the FCC's job to ensure that anything involving ISPs goes smoothly. I guess that they couldn't help but to step in. The minimum bar for "broadband access" has been raised, but not nearly enough.

At this point, I think that the matter is mostly with broadband capacity, with speed being a secondary concern. America's internet traffic is increasing, and there simply is not enough to go around. The Netflix thing was a hyperbole, but that certainly adds to the traffic load. During peak hours, Netflix consumes more broadband usage than any other website.

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/10/netflix-instant-accounts-for-20-percent-of-peak-u-s-bandwith-use/



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Telcos measure their business in ARPU ( = average revenue per user) and churn ( = % of customers dropping off). They pay a lot less attention to customers acquisition because it cost 7 times more to acquire a new customer than to retain one. So the strategy is to get you into a plan, and then add bells and whistles to justify increasing prices. That means segmenting the offerings and giving you less so you have to buy more.



yes they are but if you get a bundle then there a bit better over here cable internet cost $50 a month at speeds of 10-15mbps DL and 3-6mbs upload but if you package them with phone and tv the total is $100

there are phone line ISP Verizon at&t here that cost $20 but there speed is 1mbs DL and 500kbps upload

i had the verizon before and as you said when online gaming its pretty bad especially if some else is on a PC or other console it was also un reliable i then switched to comcast with there $100 deal no contract and am pretty satisfied with there cable internet never had any issues with DCs

also the tv services has also gone up

 i remember a time long ago i would pay $40 for cable it has now shot up to $70 and they also have less channels than when i was paying $40 yrs ago so i have no chioce but to bundle all 3 cause it would cost me $180 a month if i bought them separately from different providers

 

also to note comcast offers a economic ISP in my area that still uses cable instead of phone lines its not on there web sites you have to rely ask the sales person which is $25 a month with a speed of 3mbs Dl and 1mb upload imo this is much better than at&t and verizon b/c its a faster more reliable service with the same price



                                                             

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SmokedHostage said:

At the very least, we don't have AU's caps.

Yes and your internet isn't as slow as shit and labelled 'the worst infrastructure in a developed nation' by pundits.

I WISH we had something approaching what the US has in AU.




mibuokami said:
SmokedHostage said:

At the very least, we don't have AU's caps.

Yes and your internet isn't as slow as shit and labelled 'the worst infrastructure in a developed nation' by pundits.

I WISH we had something approaching what the US has in AU.

Wait, AU is considered worse than US? Wow that's surprising.



Wow, you guys should come to Mexico.