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There are many many reasons why I don't think God exists.

1: The burden of proof is on the religious, not me. I see no reason to have faith in something that doesn't have any evidence outside of personel experience that cannot be replicated or measured.

2: The God of the gaps. Science is continually shrinking the domain that God exists in. Just because science doesn't understand something today doesn't mean it wont tomorrow and it certainly doesn't mean that God is the explanation anyway. A lot of people tend to jump to the conclusion that since science cannot explain something then "God did it!". Which I think is jumping the gun. I'm not afraid to say I don't know something and I find people that think they have all the asnwers suspect.

3: The inifite regress. Eg. If God made the universe, what made God? Repeat infinity.

4: The plethora of living religions all with adherents that say they all right and the others wrong. They can't all be right.

5: The dead religions that everyone is so dismissive of. I don't find any of the current living religions any more likely to be right.

6: The general move towards monotheism. I go one step further.

7: The idea that some of the current Gods that exist are both omniscient and omnipotent. Which isn;t logically possible since if the future is set in stone and known by the deity they cannot change it (and thus aren't omnipotent) and if they can change it they aren't omniscient.

8: The fact that morality in general is changing, which points towards the fact that morality isn't set in stone in the way some religions think it is.

9: The chauvanism in many of the major religions. The tendency to treat women as a mans possession etc. When I say I think religion is man made, I mean that literally. The chauvanism makes me think that its more likely that men shaped god in their image, not the other way around.

Really I could go on all day. I simply see no reason to be religious. The only reason I had faith in God was because I was born into a faimly that taught me that God exists. If I had been born in India I'd be a Hindu or Iraq I'd have been a Muslim. But being an Atheist was my own conclusion that took years.



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sapphi_snake said:
 


Fascinating... I always thought this "spiritual" experiences were nothing more than hallucinations caused by chemicals in the brain. Thanks for the info, will read the sources you listed.

You haven't heard of the God gene?    :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvijJTjZ8Rg

 The  idea that "spiritual experiences are nothing more than a hallucinations  caused by chemicals in the brain" is also a hallucination caused by chemicals in the brain.



trestres said:
Armads said:
trestres said:
Armads said:
trestres said:
SmokedHostage said:

As far as I'm concerned, the idea of God is no different than Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.  Just dribble told by the ignorant that can't use logic.

-puts up Flame Shield-


That was very offensive and unnecessary. An ignorant statement to make.


I have to agree, there is much more reason to believe in Santa Claus than God.  What an insulting remark.

Which are those reasons? Besides trying to insult people and ignite unnecessary flames, if you want to troll or insult people intelligence this is not the place. Add something to the conversation, dont fucking troll.

Well let's break down the properties of a god and the properties of a santa claus

God:

-Has abilities outside laws of the universe

-knows everything

-has no known form

-has no known location of habitation

 

Santa Claus

-Has a list of everyones children

-Knows what said childrens behaviour is

-Rides on a sled

-Wears red and white

-has elves make all of his equipment

-lives on the north pole

Now we all know child labor is still a problem in this world and these so called "elves" are working for barely nothing, basically just enough to stay alive on the frigid climate of the north pole (which is also a real place.)  Some would say that it's not possible that he gives all the worlds children presents in a single night using only a reindeer pulled sled.  What they don't realize is that santa claus had to adapt to the changing times, people weren't asking for toy trains and teddy bears anymore, they started asking for PS3s, iPhone 3Gs, and LCD TVs.  Not only did he invest in educating more skilled workers to make these products he also invested in the same jet technology that powered the SR-71 blackbird.  He can get from the east coast to the west in only an hour and 7 minutes with that tech fueling his sleds.  Yeah that's right I said sleds, plural, with more sleds he can get himself (or one of his santy representitives) in and out of every house in a single night in the world, well I mean only the christian ones of course.

 

God however, we don't know of anything that can operate outside our universal laws, strike one.  We don't know of anything that has complete knowledge of the universe, strike two.  Finally he has no form or place of habitation (other than heaven, and where the heck is that?) strikes three and four.  Imo the God theory is out and the Santa theory is in.

 

"I agree with you. There is no more reason to believe in Santa Claus than god and that 'dribble told by the ignorant' sentence was just plain trolling."

 

Oh it was just a joke, but I don't agree that all religious people lack logic and are inherently ignorant.  Just that there's no more reason to believe in God than Santa Claus.

Heaven is not a place, is a state of the soul. Plus you need to read a lot of philosophy basics before stating things as fact.

I've studied philosophy, it was obviously a joke.

 

@smidlee's lastest point

Your arguments are so laughably bad I'm convinced that you have to be joking at this point.





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Smidlee said:
sapphi_snake said:
 


Fascinating... I always thought this "spiritual" experiences were nothing more than hallucinations caused by chemicals in the brain. Thanks for the info, will read the sources you listed.

You haven't heard of the God gene?    :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvijJTjZ8Rg

 The  idea that "spiritual experiences are nothing more than a hallucinations  caused by chemicals in the brain" is also a hallucination caused by chemicals in the brain

Dude, you don't need anyone's approval if you wish to worship some desert dweller's hallucinations.



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sapphi_snake said:
Smidlee said:
sapphi_snake said:
 


Fascinating... I always thought this "spiritual" experiences were nothing more than hallucinations caused by chemicals in the brain. Thanks for the info, will read the sources you listed.

You haven't heard of the God gene?    :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvijJTjZ8Rg

 The  idea that "spiritual experiences are nothing more than a hallucinations  caused by chemicals in the brain" is also a hallucination caused by chemicals in the brain

What does DMT have to do with genetics? IF you want to worship some desert dweller's hallucinations be my guest.

Just because drugs can make you see an  pink elephant that not really there does not mean that elephants are not real.  An inbalance in the body (or brain damage) can make someone who is normally happy to have suicide thoughts which it why we say "That person is not themselves."  Scientist themselves speak as if their thought are more than a butch of chemical in their brains.



Smidlee said:
sapphi_snake said:
Smidlee said:
sapphi_snake said:
 


Fascinating... I always thought this "spiritual" experiences were nothing more than hallucinations caused by chemicals in the brain. Thanks for the info, will read the sources you listed.

You haven't heard of the God gene?    :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvijJTjZ8Rg

 The  idea that "spiritual experiences are nothing more than a hallucinations  caused by chemicals in the brain" is also a hallucination caused by chemicals in the brain

What does DMT have to do with genetics? IF you want to worship some desert dweller's hallucinations be my guest.

Just because drugs can make you see an  pink elephant that not really there does not mean that elephants are not real.  An inbalance in the body can make someone who is normally happy to have suicide thoughts which it why we say "That person is not themselves.

Well, for starters pink elephants are not real.
Google DMT and search it's effects and also read testimonials from people who have taken it. Also read the sorces that Armad stated in his posts.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
Smidlee said:
sapphi_snake said:
Smidlee said:
sapphi_snake said:
 


Fascinating... I always thought this "spiritual" experiences were nothing more than hallucinations caused by chemicals in the brain. Thanks for the info, will read the sources you listed.

You haven't heard of the God gene?    :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvijJTjZ8Rg

 The  idea that "spiritual experiences are nothing more than a hallucinations  caused by chemicals in the brain" is also a hallucination caused by chemicals in the brain

What does DMT have to do with genetics? IF you want to worship some desert dweller's hallucinations be my guest.

Just because drugs can make you see an  pink elephant that not really there does not mean that elephants are not real.  An inbalance in the body can make someone who is normally happy to have suicide thoughts which it why we say "That person is not themselves.

Well, for starters pink elephants are not real.
Google DMT and search it's effects and also read testimonials from people who have taken it. Also read the sorces that Armad stated in his posts.

When I first met my wife I did nice things for her because I was in love... in another words I have this warm fuzzy feeling as well sexual impulses. These feeling can be easily be explain by some chemicals in the brain. After being married for years this warm fuzzy feeling fades away.  I learned that unlike when we first met , the feelings comes after the action instead of the action after the feeling. It requires hard work to keep a marriage together but afterward the fuzzy feeling does come back from time to time.  I love my wife more now than I did when we first met.  I wonder if the only love some people ever know of is this fuzzy feeling so they will follow one woman( or man)  after another chasing after the feeling like a junkie on drugs.

There is a huge difference in some drug giving someone some kind of "spiritual" feeling and someone being a spiritual person. Drugs can give someone a false peace, joy, love while in reality their life is falling apart , they will steal from even their mother , and are very unhappy. Anyone who had a loved one hooked on drugs will know the difference. Someone who has real peace and love in their heart will have an effect on their bodies (brain) as well.



Smidlee said:
sapphi_snake said:
Smidlee said:
sapphi_snake said:
Smidlee said:
sapphi_snake said:
 


Fascinating... I always thought this "spiritual" experiences were nothing more than hallucinations caused by chemicals in the brain. Thanks for the info, will read the sources you listed.

You haven't heard of the God gene?    :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvijJTjZ8Rg

 The  idea that "spiritual experiences are nothing more than a hallucinations  caused by chemicals in the brain" is also a hallucination caused by chemicals in the brain

What does DMT have to do with genetics? IF you want to worship some desert dweller's hallucinations be my guest.

Just because drugs can make you see an  pink elephant that not really there does not mean that elephants are not real.  An inbalance in the body can make someone who is normally happy to have suicide thoughts which it why we say "That person is not themselves.

Well, for starters pink elephants are not real.
Google DMT and search it's effects and also read testimonials from people who have taken it. Also read the sorces that Armad stated in his posts.

When I first met my wife I did nice things for her because I was in love... in another words I have this warm fuzzy feeling as well sexual impulses. These feeling can be easily be explain by some chemicals in the brain. After being married for years this warm fuzzy feeling fades away.  I learned that unlike when we first met , the feelings comes after the action instead of the action after the feeling. It requires hard work to keep a marriage together but afterward the fuzzy feeling does come back from time to time.  I love my wife more now than I did when we first met.  I wonder if the only love some people ever know of is this fuzzy feeling so they will follow one woman( or man)  after another chasing after the feeling like a junkie on drugs.

There is a huge difference in some drug giving someone some kind of "spiritual" feeling and someone being a spiritual person. Drugs can give someone a false peace, joy, love while in reality their life is falling apart , they will steal from even their mother , and are very unhappy. Anyone who had a loved one hooked on drugs will know the difference. Someone who has real peace and love in their heart will have an effect on their bodies (brain) as well

What's love got to do with it? Seriously, I don't get the point of your first paragraph.

Spirituality doesn't exist. DMT is a substance produced by a gland in the brain. It causes hallucinations. It's normally kept in small quantities, and if the brain accidentally produces too much a person will experience hallucinations which people in the past considered to be spiritual/religions/prophetic visions. Also this substance is released abundantly in the brain when someone dies, hence the visions of people who have near-death experiences.

Spirituality doesn't exist. It's nothin more that hallucinations.

Also you can't get hooked on DMT and it's used in religions practices, even by some christians.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)