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Wyrdness said:
Snoorlax said:

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3DS was far from blue ocean it wasn't even close this starts off with the pricing debacle just because they use the same branding doesn't mean the approach is the same

3DS just used the same branding and went down a different road thinking that if they threw out a token release it would yield the same result but they soon found out token releases aren't really catering to an audience.

This is why the 3DS ran into trouble early on (also why Wii U flopped) and why they abandoned their plan and shifted the way they handled it

WiiU is more powerful than PS3/360 that's not even debatable as running one of the same games of the gen at 1080p highlights this

 You link Miyamoto here's Reggie's own words when the platform was unveiled.

"It's a system we will all enjoy together but also one that's tailor-made for you"

https://www.polygon.com/2014/8/5/5970787/wii-u-nintendo-bad-name

This was also a reason given as to why Wii U wasn't called Wii 2 or Wii HD as the concepts and goals were different Wii U was a successor not a continuation so no my point still stands

what actually went wrong with the platform was Nintendo not knowing what they wanted the platform to be, who they were aiming for and not doing their own thing like they normally do.

The 3DS initially cost the same as a Nintendo Wii which could be considered pricey for a handheld device but when you compare it to the Vita's initial price of 300 and 250 dollars or high end tablets of the time it's not expensive at all for a then modern dedicated gaming handheld.

That is what i've been saying the whole time and the same applies to Wii U.

Yup that's what i've been trying to tell you.

You can keep saying that but the Wii U's competitors were PS4 and Xone not PS360. So it was not surprising at all for the WiiU to be more powerful than 7th generation consoles however it couldn't compete with PS4One, the same scenario with the Wii.

Sorry, but Miyamoto was involved on Wii U's development, Reggie wasn't. And regarding Reggie's comments on the Wii U... What is that supposed to mean? It can be interpreted in multiple ways honestly, nothing that indicates that it was aimed at core gamers like you said first. Anything Reggie said about the Wii U was purely for PR. 

It's a successor that tried to replicate the Wii's success. The article's i've provided you clearly say so.

So first, you said Wii U failed for aiming solely on Core gamers now you say Wii U failed for not knowing who it's target audience were. The articles i gave you clearly say otherwise.