| trunkswd said: How much does that CPU cost? Price will obviously drop a bit by the time the Xbox Series X and PS5 launch, and Microsoft and Sony buying them in the millions will get a discount. |
Looking at "prices" is always a flawed approach when it comes down to hammering the price down on these things. Especially when consoles are concerned with the custom chips and 7yr+ deals.
Whats more important is the actual size of the silicon, cause at the end of the day that's what dictates the price that console OEMs will be paying. I see that CPU taking up no more than 60mm2 on a die, that's reasonable being that the full desktop ryzen 7 8C/16t chips with their 32Mb of cache was under 80mm2, but those full desktop chips had a separate I/O die built at 14nm.
The next-gen consoles wouldn't do that so both their CPU and i/o would be built to the same fab process and all be in one chip along with their GPU. So its more relevant looking at what the total chip size of the next-gen consoles will be, and what a chip that size currently cost to make after factoring in yields.
Next-gen APUs will be in the 300mm2-405mm2 range, up from the 300mm2-360mm2 range of the current-gen chips. My estimates are that it will cost them anywhere between $95-$130 for the APU alone from AMD, which puts it in the ballpark but higher, than what they were spending for their APUs back in 2013.
| JEMC said: I know that both consoles will have an 8-core CPU, but will it really use SMT and have 16 threads? Given the huge performance increase both consoles would have just from going from Jaguar to Zen2, the extra threads may not be needed, maybe even making development a tad more easier. In any case, and whether they go with and 8/8 or an 8/16 design, I agree that this chip could be very similar to the one they'll use. |
Everything thus far suggests that its an 8/16 CPU. Unless the sample chips being tested over the last year ae all for naught. We even have sample chips that were tested with the exact cache allotment seen in this 4800H CPU but paired with a beefier and unknown GPU. But even if SMT is cut, that feature only adds about 30% to overall CPU performance anyways.
Last edited by Intrinsic - on 08 January 2020
