| EricHiggin said: Ok, so we're both guessing at something, since neither of us know for sure, and neither of us are suggesting anything that would be highly unlikely or out of the question, and yet $500 for the PS5 is ridiculous enough for you to brush it off like it means nothing, yet PS basing the SSD off of existing standards and tech should be taken more seriously? It's not like we don't know what consoles used to cost, presently cost, or what they could cost, based on many factors. You're right that PS hasn't said anything about price, other than Cerny saying, "it'll be appealing to gamers in light of it's advanced feature set", but they also haven't said anything about the SSD, other than it uses PCIe 4.0 and will load really fast. |
Your defense of Sony is admirable, but misplaced... And no I am not "Guessing at something".
Sony made the blanket statement that the PS5 "has a raw bandwidth higher than any SSD available for PCs." - And clearly I have proven that statement to be absolutely false.
https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/
There was no mention of PC's price, there was no mention of the Playstation 5's price, thus price doesn't enter into the argument, it's that simple. - I take issue with Sony's statement, not the pricing of it's hardware or the company itself.
To then have someone like yourself to leverage "price" to shift the goal post (Which is a logical fallacy) is just continuing the disingenuous narrative already put in play.
Yes the SSD in the Playstation 5 will be "really fast". - But it can't beat the PC, it can beat some PC's however.
| EricHiggin said: While using existing tech with minor customizations is totally possible based on PS4's semi-custom tech, the PS4 was also coming off of a terrible gen for PS themselves, and going into a world of 'consoles are dead'. PS5 is coming off PS4 like PS3 came off PS2, and we all know what that led to. Now while I by no means think we're likely getting anything as unique or expensive as the PS3 was, I think expecting PS5 to simply be an upgraded Pro is setting the bar to low. I would guess we're going to see less minor semi custom tech, and more significant semi custom tech. How much do you think the PS5 will be, based on whatever factors you would use at this time to make a reasonable guess? |
The Playstation 4's "Semi custom" technology was still derived from PC based technology.
I never stated the Playstation 5 is just an upgraded Pro, thus the bar isn't being set low.
As for price, I don't know... And personally I don't really care, I will buy whatever console offers the most compelling overall solution.
| Lafiel said: aren't you being a bit disingenuous yourself here? Unless I missed a more recent comment, Cerny said it was better than anything in current PCs when PCI-E 4.0 wasn't released. And an Epyc CPU is not something for "PCs" (_personal_ computers), it's server hardware. The kind of raids you describe are extremely unlikely to be used for personal/private use. |
You can have PCI-E 3.0 SSD setups that will beat the Playstation 5's or PCI-E 4.0 SSD setups, it depends how many PCI-E lanes you want to throw at the problem.
Sony made a claim, that the Playstation 5's SSD setup is faster than the PC, they didn't specify what PC in particular.
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